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                                                                  DAY 233
 
                                                  HOWARD LYMAN, Examined:
 
 
 
     1        banned.  At that time, they were approved.  So far as the
     2        pesticides we were using, we were using things like
     3        Lindane, which today have also been banned for use.  The
     4        hormones we used, Diethylstilbestrol, Ralgro, Estrogen,
     5        Dialam, have been banned from the market which approved for
     6        15 years, that it has been shown to have cancer -----
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where are we going now?  You know that we
     9        have certain particular issues in the case.
    10
    11   MS. STEEL:   Which includes pesticides hormones and -----
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It does.  But where are we going on this?
    14        You have mentioned a whole number of different ones which
    15        there is no mention of in the -----
    16
    17   MS. STEEL:   They are just examples.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We may have some evidence on them, but from
    20        experts.  But in so far as they refer to, they refer to
    21        specific ones.
    22
    23   MS. STEEL:  (To the witness)  The antibiotics you were using,
    24        how frequently were they used?
    25        A.  We used antibiotics in our cattle that were in the
    26        feedlot every day.  We changed the variety of antibiotics
    27        every 30 days; because the bacteria would get used to what
    28        we were using, we changed the variety every 30 days.
    29
    30   Q.   Was this your own idea to use all these things, or was it
    31        something that the industry was doing or -----
    32        A.  This was a standard of the industry that was
    33        recommended.  It was the approved practice that was being
    34        used.
    35
    36   Q.   And those practices, have they continued -- obviously, not
    37        the ones that are banned, but the similar chemicals and
    38        antibiotics and hormones?
    39        A.  The basic approach is the same.  Some of the materials
    40        are different.
    41
    42   Q.   Do you know how widely hormones are used in the USA?
    43        A.  I believe that the documentation will show that over
    44        90 per cent of all fed cattle in the United States today
    45        are injected with hormones.
    46
    47   Q.   When you say fed -----
    48        A.  Those are feedlot cattle.
    49
    50   Q.   The crops that you grew for feeding to cattle, were 
    51        pesticides and so on used on them? 
    52        A.  We used herbicides and pesticides on all of the crops 
    53        that were used for feed for our livestock, yes.
    54
    55   Q.   OK.  If we go on to animal condition.
    56
    57        "When I first became acquainted with animal production, it
    58        was at a time when all production was done using natural
    59        and organic methods.  This allowed the animals a great deal
    60        of freedom and their diet was compatible with their natural
 
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