Day 233 - 26 03 96 - Page 11
DAY 233
HOWARD LYMAN, Examined:
1 come up on a number of occasions with Mr. Pattison, and so
2 on.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I think you have got to direct your
5 questions. I am not thinking of this particular item. But
6 I would rather you led a bit and pointed Mr. Lyman at what
7 you want specifically. Otherwise, we are going to have
8 pause after pause while parts which are not actually
9 relevant to any issue raised by the leaflet which is in
10 this case are debated, and I have left in or put on one
11 side. You know what -----
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13 MS. STEEL: I will try, but the problem is that if I lead it too
14 much, I am going to get Mr. Rampton jumping and complaining
15 about that.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It may be that he will not. It may be that
18 Mr. Rampton will prefer a bit of leading, rather than just
19 too much carte blanche.
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21 MS. STEEL: OK.
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23 "The animal husbandry practised today is only concerned
24 with economics. The comfort and welfare of the animal is
25 only important if there is the chance that the animal will
26 fail to achieve marketability. I participated in this
27 transition. For many years I believed the end justified
28 the means. Today I regard the methods used in most animal
29 production as barbaric and inhumane."
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31 Can you just say briefly what methods that you are talking
32 about there ---
33 A. The -----
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35 Q. -- that affect the welfare of animals?
36 A. The practices that we used specifically on my farm and
37 many farms like it were, we brought animals in; we cut
38 their horns off with no antiseptic; we castrated them, with
39 no regard to the pain; we branded them; we ended up putting
40 them in small confined spaces that they were not used to;
41 and we put them on a diet that was totally different than
42 what they had been raised on on the range. I consider
43 those things, today, to be barbaric and inhumane.
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45 Q. Those things that you have talked about, from your
46 knowledge of the industry, are they still continuing to
47 this present day?
48 A. Yes.
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50 Q. OK. If we go over the page.
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52 "The use of confinement and chemical therapy to increase
53 weight gain is self-defeating to the point where the more
54 animals that are crowded together, the more chemical
55 therapy is needed to stave off massive death loss. The
56 conditions in the present day feedlot are adequate if the
57 weather cooperates. However, if too much rain or snow
58 comes to the area the feedlots become death traps for
59 confined animals."
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