Day 008 - 07 Jul 94 - Page 03
1 Q. Can I summarise that: You tell him what you want and it
is his job to do it; is that right?
2 A. That is part of their job. The other part of their
job is to bring to us what they feel we need to do. They
3 are charged with the responsibility to be as progressive
and innovative with packaging as is possible, and to bring
4 to McDonald's any new technologies, new ideas, new
Q. Your last answer, Mr. Langert, was to the effect that not
6 only did Perseco carry out, as far as they can, your
wishes as communicated to them, but that they have an
7 obligation to take initiatives themselves to bring new
ideas and technology to it; is that right?
8 A. That is correct.
9 Q. Can I go back a little bit, Mr. Langert, were you educated
in the United States?
10 A. Yes, I was.
11 Q. Did you go to university?
A. Yes, I went to under graduate and graduate schools in
12 the United States.
13 Q. Do you have academic degrees?
A. Yes. My last degree was a Masters in Business from
14 North Western University.
15 Q. That, for those who do not know, is in or near Chicago; is
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. Before you joined Perseco, immediately before, for whom
were you working then?
18 A. I worked for the parent company of Perseco that is
called the Harvi Group. I joined them in 1983 and
19 I worked my way through various functions within the
McDonald's operations of distribution and transportation
20 from 1983 until 1988.
21 Q. In other words, not to do with the supply of packaging?
A. Only that we delivered it, used it and delivered it.
Q. Yes, I understand. Can I ask you this: What
23 considerations underlie and govern McDonald's policies and
practices in relation to packaging?
24 A. We look at packaging from a total life cycle
perspective and then we take packaging and also put it in
25 the total business perspective.
26 Let me first speak about how we look at it
environmentally: Environmentally, we look at it again,
27 what we call cradle to grave. We look at the impacts of
package in terms of raw material usage and try to compare
28 to other raw materials. We take a look at it during the
processing function, manufacturing, what happens to it
29 versus other options. We look at it in the distribution
chain where the impacts in the distribution chain, there
30 are large effects there. We look at the impacts of store
operations and then we look at what happens to it once we