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     1        many milligrams there are there?
     2        A.  Yes, in the Hazelton 1986 report the milligrams for
     3        sodium are also 743.
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have not found that in the analysis.
     7   MS. STEEL:   It is under "Sandwiches", the second one along.
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, 743.
    11   MS. STEEL:   Then if you could look at McNuggetts in the
    12        advertisement, it is 512 milligrams; is that right?
    13        A.  In the 1987 ad, yes.
    15   Q.   If you look under "Chicken McNuggetts", which is the first
    16        one in the middle section of this page in the Hazelton
    17        report, that is 512 as well?
    18        A.  Yes.
    20   Q.   Finally, looking at the vanilla milk shake which in the
    21        advertisement states 201 milligrams of sodium, we also
    22        find that in the last chart on the nutritional analysis
    23        under "other items"; the fourth one along is vanilla milk
    24        shake, that is also 201 milligrams; is that right?
    25        A.  In the Hazelton study, yes, also 201.
    27   Q.   So, looking at that, it would appear what you wrote in
    28        your letter is correct?
    29        A.  Yes.
    31   Q.   Or what the Attorney General wrote.  Then going on to the
    32        argument yesterday about sodium hexametaphosphate -- you
    33        should not need the large bundle any more.
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do we know just what the dates are?
    37   MS. STEEL:   It says 1986.
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I appreciate that.  But if an analysis was
    40        done in 1986 those might actually be the figures which
    41        appear in ads starting in the middle of January 1987.  Do
    42        you see what I mean?
    44   MS. STEEL:   That is actually the point.
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    48   MS. STEEL:  He said that he had written the letter based --
    49        I mean, he said this yesterday -- on looking at their
    50        documents, at their nutritional information. 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do we know, for instance, what the position 
    53        was in 1985?  Do you yourself have a source of information
    54        as to whether the ads were actually working on the 1986
    55        survey or compared with 1985?  You see, I realise the
    56        point which is being made, but if, for instance, this
    57        analysis is the latest analysis that McDonald's had when
    58        the ads were prepared and, in fact, on the analysis a year
    59        previous to this the sodium had been higher, they might
    60        pray that in aid.  I just do not know.  You see the point

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