Day 079 - 27 Jan 95 - Page 03
3 Q. You do not know how many?
4 A. No.
6 Q. Then it was after the outbreak of food poisoning in Preston
7 that you introduced testing of all the consignments?
8 A. Yes, that is correct.
10 Q. Was that the same test or was that a different test?
11 A. That was a new test, a test which had been developed by
12 Camden Research.
14 Q. Who, presumably, thought it was more effective?
15 A. Yes, well, Dr. Jeff Banks is the world authority on
18 Q. You have mentioned Jeff Banks, you mentioned it when you
19 were giving evidence-in-chief, and the Jack-in-the-Box
20 problem; can you just explain briefly what that was about?
21 A. In the United States of America there was an outbreak
22 of E.coli 0157: H in a restaurant chain called
23 Jack-in-the-Box and, to my knowledge, Dr. Jeff Banks was
24 called to the United States of America to assist in their
27 Q. Right. Then he came back. Can you just tell us a bit more
28 about what happened?
29 A. About what happened where and when?
31 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I wonder what Jack-in-the-Box has to do
32 with this case, I really do. So far as I know, it has no
33 connection with McDonald's.
35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. What is it you are seeking for here?
36 What does Jack-in-the-Box have to do with this?
38 MS. STEEL (To the witness): Jack-in-the-Box was to do with ---
40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, tell me. I am asking you to tell me.
42 MS. STEEL: -- burger production, I believe.
44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, but to do with McDonald's?
46 MS. STEEL: No, but to do with hamburger production and E.coli.
48 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, with respect, I do not accept that is a
49 relevant enquiry. The enquiry here is, whatever
50 deficiencies there might or might not have been in
51 Jack-in-the-Box's chain of production, the question here
52 which your Lordship must decide is whether McDonald's
53 procedures are both effective in theory and in practice to
54 prevent food poisoning.
56 MS. STEEL: Mr. Walker mentioned Jack-in-the-Box in his
57 evidence-in-chief. I am just asking him to explain what
58 that was about and why he has brought it up in connection
59 to this.