Day 091 - 17 Feb 95 - Page 06


     
     1        What I may ask you to do (and again I am not making a
     2        decision on this) is whether you can assure me in relation
     3        to any particular witness that by a certain time, you have
     4        made contact with that witness in order to arrange for them
     5        to attend.  I merely raise that because that may be a
     6        possible way of having some confidence that they will
     7        actually come.
     8
     9        Think about that.  If you are able to assure me in relation
    10        to a named witness, for instance, or witnesses, "Yes, we
    11        have got in contact with them and we are actually expecting
    12        them to come to give evidence", for all I know the matter
    13        may rest there.  Do you understand?
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  If the Plaintiffs have got a name of a witness and
    16        they have got some evidence, then let them bring it.  It is
    17        not up to us to do that.
    18
    19   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  You have a long list of witnesses which
    20        it is said you intend to call.  Again, I am not in any way
    21        indicating what my decision may be on any of these
    22        aspects.  I just do not know until I have heard argument,
    23        but with a view to saving time, if it can be saved and,
    24        therefore, public costs, what I may have to consider is if
    25        there is any real doubt as to whether a significant number
    26        of a long number of witnesses will actually come to court,
    27        what the order of witnesses ought to be.
    28
    29        It is one thing to say:  "We intend to call those
    30        witnesses", which may be no more than an expression, no
    31        more than saying:  "We will call them if we can" and
    32        another being able to say to me:  "We not only want to call
    33        those witnesses, but we have made recent contact with them
    34        and we understand that they are willing to come and,
    35        therefore, we expect that they will come", that is all.
    36
    37        If you are able to do that, and there is absolutely no
    38        reason why you should not be able to do that if they are
    39        coming that I can think of because you have to get in touch
    40        with them some way ahead so that arrangements can be made,
    41        it may be that the matter will just be left there.
    42
    43        The main purpose of raising this at the moment -- I am not
    44        making any decision on that -- is so that you can think
    45        about what all the possibilities are.
    46
    47        Can I go back to the question of the immediate time-table
    48        by which I mean over the next two weeks, next two calendar
    49        weeks?   Suppose that Mr. Rampton has some re-examination
    50        of Mr. Gomez Gonzalez, how long do you expect him to be in 
    51        the witness box during that week? 
    52 
    53   MR. MORRIS:  To be honest, we have no idea.  We certainly have
    54        not got through anywhere near the bulk of what we were
    55        doing before, and we have not looked at it since.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, but you have next week to do that.  Can
    58        you not give any idea at all?  A week is a very long time.
    59        I appreciate there may be a number of matters you want to
    60        deal with.

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