Day 092 - 27 Feb 95 - Page 03
1 bacon, circular bacon, which has been tested in Schriver
2 and Osi.
4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you speak out? If you speak more or less
5 towards Mr. Rampton; it is the same problem when Ms. Steel
6 asks witnesses questions, it tends to pass between the two
7 of you?
8 A. OK, sure will.
10 MS. STEEL: Could you spell the names of those suppliers?
11 A. Normac, N-O-R-M-A-C, OSI, OSI Industries, Schriver,
12 S-C-H-R-I-V-E-R and Rose Packing, R-O-S-E Packing.
14 Q. So which ones of those have been regular suppliers for the
15 last five or 10 years?
16 A. Normac and Rose Packing.
18 Q. How do they rear the pigs on their farms?
19 A. They do not. They do not have farms.
21 Q. They do not have farms?
22 A. No, they do not.
24 Q. Right. So, who do they get their pigs from?
25 A. That one, I do not know, I assume they get it from the
26 regular market.
28 Q. So you have no idea about how those pigs are raised?
29 A. Having "no idea" is a broad statement. I have an
30 idea. I do not know where they are coming from, from what
31 farms, that is a correct statement. Is that what you are
34 Q. How are pigs generally raised in the USA?
35 A. I think I explained that last time I was here, that
36 generally they are raised in half of it is covered, half of
37 it is not. It depends a lot on the weather conditions, if
38 they are raised in the mid-west, in the north part, in the
39 south part, in the east or the west, different conditions.
40 It could be mostly open or it could be totally enclosed,
41 which is like in the winter or in the cold areas of the
42 United States. But they do have access to water, some of
43 them have straws, some have mud. It is a wide range of
44 conditions. They are being fed mostly corn.
46 Q. Do you know what the pigs supplied to McDonald's are fed?
47 A. Are fed?
49 Q. Yes.
50 A. I have just told you that I do not know what farms they
51 come from.
53 Q. Right.
54 A. But, in general, they are being fed a diet that is high
55 in corn. Most of the hogs are raised on what is called the
56 corn belt in the United States where most of the corn is
59 Q. For all you know all the pigs could be being reared