Day 095 - 02 Mar 95 - Page 06


     
     1        A.  Part of specification, well, it says "raw materials
     2        found a piece of kidney" and it says "kidney fat" in
     3        nytes(?).  Nytes is a specific cut of boneless meat.  It
     4        means 90 per cent lean.  What he found is that going over
     5        the, inspecting the containers which are normally 2,000
     6        pounds per container, he found a piece of kidney fat which
     7        is, according to our specifications, they should not be
     8        there and he found a piece of kidney.
     9
    10   Q.   The problems that are listed on this page, "the meat used
    11        in forming was too warm causing various product defects";
    12        then in the earlier part it says, "The overall appearance
    13        of the plant has improved in both cleanliness and attention
    14        to detail.  When on lunch break evaluate the need for
    15        grinding ahead may affect texture and temperature"?
    16        A.  Can we go one by one?  I cannot answer.
    17
    18   Q.   OK, we will start -----
    19        A.  We will start with the meat used in forming.  It was
    20        too warm.  Let me start by saying these are not problems
    21        that ------
    22
    23   Q.   They are not problems?
    24        A.  No.  That is what we call opportunities for improvement
    25        which is totally different, and in this case when it says
    26        the meat was too warm it is referring to the meat, the meat
    27        when it goes to the forming equipment which is in this case
    28        is a Formax 26, that is the name of the piece of
    29        equipment.  When it goes there, it has to go at a
    30        temperature at minus 1 to minus 2 degrees C.  If it goes to
    31        zero degrees C, then it is too warm and it causes some
    32        defects in the patties that are not totally complete, the
    33        patties, that might be a little too thin.
    34
    35        Those are the quality defects that he is talking about.  It
    36        has nothing to do with hygiene problems.  In fact, it just
    37        proves that our process is well ahead of anybody in terms
    38        of temperature control, because we do not, when we process
    39        it we do not go above zero degrees, because then our chain
    40        will not work at that temperature for our patties.  That is
    41        what it says on the bottom, it says that the 4-1 which is
    42        the quarter pounders were too thin.
    43
    44   Q.   What about on the same matter, "when on lunch break
    45        evaluate the need for grinding ahead may affect texture and
    46        temperature", what does that mean?
    47        A.  What happens is that we have a process of checking the
    48        grinding plates to see if there is -- the grinding plates
    49        are designed to remove pieces of bone that may be there,
    50        pieces of cartilage that may be there.  So, there is a need 
    51        for inspection after the breaks to see what is there, to 
    52        determine the quality of the meat that is coming into our 
    53        plant.
    54
    55        What he is referring, that if you do not do that ahead of
    56        time it may cause texture problems.  It may cause, it can
    57        cause over-pressure so that the quality of meat, it ends
    58        up, it could end up being more like the texture of a hard
    59        dog, if I can give an idea, what it looks like, as opposed
    60        to the texture of a hamburger, where we want bigger

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