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     1        were the quality control sheets from 3rd May to 23rd August
     2        1993, the quality control reports 1993 to 1994 and the
     3        quality control reports 1993, 1994 -- all destroyed on that
     4        day in November 1994.
     6        Your Lordship will see from that ---
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let me just look, please.  Yes?
    10   MR. RAMPTON:  -- the black lines across the last of those pages
    11        are the documents, the list of documents, referred to in
    12        the letter which were destroyed in the 40 boxes.  Your
    13        Lordship will notice that the unfortunate individual
    14        responsible was shortly afterwards sacked by Group Four.
    16   MR. MORRIS:  Does it say that somewhere?
    18   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, indeed, it does.  My Lord, the actual list
    19        which your Lordship has is compiled, we think -- I will
    20        have it further confirmed, if your Lordship would wish it,
    21        but this is what we have been told -- as well as the actual
    22        sheets which have been destroyed, McKey maintain a
    23        handwritten log in summary form showing what the results of
    24        the tests were.
    26        So far as we are aware at present, that handwritten log
    27        contains no more information than is contained on the
    28        typewritten list which your Lordship has.
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  There is nothing more I can add to that at the
    33        moment.
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know which dates -- I see on the
    36        printout it says quality control sheets 3rd May 1993 to
    37        23rd August 1993 and then quality control reports
    38        1993/1994, 1993/1994.
    40   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you know up to what time and after what
    43        time the sheets are available, because that was the other
    44        part of the indication, I will call it, I gave that if they
    45        were not still available -- of course, I was not
    46        anticipating an event such as you have put forward, but
    47        just routine destruction.
    49   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes.  What we do know is that we have some from
    50        1993.  Those did not emanate from McKey, those came from 
    51        Mr. Kenny's file.  What I do not know at the moment (and 
    52        will find out if your Lordship wishes me to do so) is 
    53        whether that destruction covers the whole of 1994, or
    54        whether there may be some that were put in boxes, as it
    55        were, after in date the 40 that were destroyed, for the
    56        later part of 1994.  That, I am afraid, I do not know but
    57        I could find out.  Whether it is helpful is entirely
    58        another question.
    60        The single advantage of the date of 12th January for which

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