Day 107 - 24 Mar 95 - Page 05


     
     1   Q.   Before I go on to another pathogen, let me ask you:  You
     2        said salmonella was also found in the blood of animals?
     3        A.  Occasionally, yes.
     4
     5   Q.   Occasionally in the blood?
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   Does that apply to humans?
     9        A.  Yes.
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    11   Q.   You said somewhere else, which I have already forgotten, it
    12        was part of the animal one did not normally eat?
    13        A.  Sorry, the udder milk.
    14
    15   Q.   In milk.  Humans produce milk as well, so is it in the milk
    16        of both animals and humans?
    17        A.  There have been cases of maternal transmission, yes.
    18
    19   Q.   And in the blood of humans?
    20        A.  Yes, occasionally.  There was one case of maternal
    21        transmission, milk to a pet dog!
    22
    23   Q.   Yes, very well.  Is E.coli found other than in the gut?
    24        A.  Only in the case of actual defined illness.
    25
    26   Q.   Campylobacter?
    27        A.  Very frequently found in all species.
    28
    29   Q.   But is that in the gut?
    30        A.  In the gut as well, yes.  In the gut; it is a gut
    31        inhabitant.
    32
    33   Q.   Elsewhere at all?
    34        A.  It has some longevity in the environment; that also
    35        actually must apply to salmonella.
    36
    37   Q.   It sounds as if I am really only concerned with the gut.
    38        Staphylococcus, and I do not ask you to distinguish between
    39        different kinds at the moment.
    40        A.  The different species do have marginally different
    41        inhabitants, habitats, but in general the skin organism.
    42
    43   Q.   But Generally in the gut, is that, as well or where?
    44        A.  Skin primarily, that is its primary habitat.
    45
    46   Q.   Of animals and humans?
    47        A.  Yes, epithelial tissue really which means it also is an
    48        inhabitant of the alimentary tract.  So, you will find it
    49        in the throat, in the oesophagus, in the nasal passages.
    50 
    51   Q.   That is animals and humans; I know it is in humans. 
    52        A.  Yes, it is common. 
    53
    54   Q.   Then what are the other pathogens, particular pathogens, we
    55        have been concerned with?
    56        A.  I believe listeria has been mentioned.
    57
    58   Q.   Yes.  Tell me about that.
    59        A.  That is a common inhabitant of both.
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