Day 111 - 30 Mar 95 - Page 05

     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is at the very back of pale volume 1B,
     2        unless you are going to be handed another.
     3
     4   MR. MORRIS:  It may take up less space if we give you a copy.
     5        It is an unmarked copy (Handed).  Is there anything in that
     6        that you wish to clarify at all?
     7        A.  Well, in the light of what I understand has been
     8        testified here before, I would want to clarify the points
     9        in No. 6, the four points in No. 6.  The first point
    10        stating: "The Alec Jarrett LTD has no laboratory at the
    11        premises neither does it use the service of any other
    12        outside laboratory".  This should have obviously been
    13        written -- I apologise to the court; I should have said "to
    14        my knowledge" I can explain.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Take it slowly and steadily.  If I may
    17        say so, you speak quite quickly.  Although you speak very
    18        good English, you have some accent still and the
    19        combination means that one has to work hard sometimes to
    20        keep up with you, so positively try to speak slowly, will
         you?
    22        A.  OK.  Well, the first point in that paragraph No. 6
    23        stating:  "The Alec Jarrett LTD has no laboratory at the
    24        premises neither does it use the service of any outside
    25        laboratory", I would like to clarify that point.  In the
    26        first place, I feel that I should have written originally
    27         -- I am not very used to serving as a witness in court --
    28        I should have obviously written "to my knowledge" and I can
    29        explain what this means.
    30
    31        Basically, when I started working at the Alec Jarrett LTD,
    32        I enquired whether any laboratory tests were being done
    33        because an abattoir of that size, normally you would expect
    34        regular swabbing programmes to be in progress and you would
    35        expect some other laboratory service being used as well.
    36        I was told both by the Local Council representative, the
    37        Senior Meat Inspector, David White, who regularly visited
    38        the abattoir once a week, at least, and was in charge of
    39        reporting to the Local Council about what happened at the
    40        abattoir, by him that no laboratory tests were taken, apart
         from the statutory water microbiology testing.
    42
    43        I also enquired of the management of the abattoir whether
    44        laboratory tests were being taken.  They told me no, and
    45        I then suggested that I would want to, in considering the
    46        way I saw the hygiene, the state of hygiene that was at the
    47        abattoir at the time, I considered it essential to do some
    48        testing, partly to clarify my point and partly, in my
    49        opinion, to use it as a monitoring equipment.
    50 
    51        I was told by Mr. Jarrett, Mr. Robert Jarrett, that he 
    52        preferred that I would let the matter lie for a while and 
    53        would not start taking swabs immediately, partly because
    54        there is always a cost involved.
    55
    56   MR. MORRIS:  A cost?
    57        A.  The cost involved in doing these tests.  I suggested
    58        then that since I had experience doing TVC counts and
    59        swabbing myself, to save the costs, I suggested that
    60        I would do it myself on the premises and if I had access to