Day 111 - 30 Mar 95 - Page 09


     
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     2   Q.   Did you take that expectation seriously when you worked at
     3        the plant?
     4        A.  Yes, of course I did.  I would take that even if such
     5        expectations did not exist because that would be proper
     6        professional conduct.
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     8   Q.   Why were you dismissed?
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    10   MR. RAMPTON:  Does it matter why she was dismissed, my Lord?
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    12   MS. STEEL:  Yes.
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    14   MR. RAMPTON:  Unless it has something to do with food safety?
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If I may say so, I am not going to stop you
    17        answering that question, but there are limits to how
    18        helpful it is to start at the back and then work towards
    19        the beginning.  If you are going to go into any of the body
    20        of things, which is in paragraph 6 and paragraph 7,
    21        although Ms. Hovi is your witness and you are entitled to
    22        take her in the order you like, it would be much more
    23        helpful to me if you went into anything further you want in
    24        relation to the matters set out in paragraphs 6 and 7 and
    25        then came to the circumstances of her dismissal.
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  I just wanted to put, if you like, a whole stay at
    28        the plant in some kind of context before going into the
    29        details, if that is OK?
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    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I cannot see that it will throw you if you do
    32        it the way I have suggested and then I can judge, since
    33        Mr. Rampton has queried the relevance, on whether it is
    34        relevant or not.  It may very well be, but if we take it in
    35        chronological order it will be that much easier for me to
    36        see.
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    38   MR. MORRIS:  Mr. Rampton, of course, has already brought that up
    39        with his own witnesses on circumstances, so he can hardly
    40        say it is not relevant.
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    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us see where we get to.  If you elaborate
    43        on 6 and 7, first of all.
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    45   MS. STEEL:  Can I just add that Mr. Rampton has kind of rather
    46        sneeringly remarked on a few occasions as well that Ms.
    47        Hovi was only there for three weeks.  He obviously seems to
    48        think -----
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    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us do it in a sensible way, taking it in 
    51        the order of how events happened and then you can take Ms. 
    52        Hovi to the conclusion.  I always find it easier to read 
    53        the beginning and middle before I read the end.
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    55   MR. MORRIS:  OK. (To the witness) Before we embark upon the
    56        detail, can you outline the public health considerations of
    57        red meat production?
    58        A.  At the abattoir level, I assume you -----
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    60   Q.   Focusing on the abattoir level, yes, the context in which

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