Day 112 - 31 Mar 95 - Page 07

     
     1   Q.   You do.  Do you think it at all fair to suggest that, in
     2        fact, what you did while you were at Jarretts was to pick a
     3        number of nits -- it is quite an old slaughterhouse, is it
     4        not?
     5        A.  Yes, it is, it is fairly old.
     6
     7   Q.   That when you were dismissed, unfairly as you thought, to
     8        blow those nits up into rather large and
     9        frightening-looking animals?  Do you think that is a fair
    10        suggestion or not?
    11        A.  No, I think it is very unfair.  If you have, while you
    12        were present here yesterday, when we went through my
    13        evidence, and there were various aspects that were actually
    14        statutorily wrong at the Jarretts.  There were various
    15        aspects that I listed that were of considerable public
    16        health concern to me, in my professional opinion, and I do
    17        not think that that is picking nits.
    18
    19   Q.   I am interested in those and I will go into those in some
    20        detail in a moment, Ms. Hovi, because you listed them in
         your written statement -- we will have to look at some of
    22        them -- as breaches of statutory requirements as embodied
    23        in The Fresh Meat (Hygiene and Inspection) Regulations
    24        1992.  But, first of all, can I put something to you in
    25        relation to your earlier part of your statement about TVCs
    26        and swab sampling or testing?
    27
    28        Would you accept that your conversation with Mr. Bob
    29        Jarrett about this subject went something like this --
    30        I know it is a year ago, or nearly a year ago -- you said:
    31         "Would you like me to do some swab testing for
    32        microbiological counts?"  He said:  "No, thank you very
    33        much.  We already do it"?
    34        A.  No, it was not at all like that.  I said that I would
    35        like to do some microbiological sampling.
    36
    37   Q.   But he did already do it, did he not?  They were already
    38        doing it?
    39        A.  Well, nobody told me about that.
    40
    Q.   Can you find -- I am sorry, I do not know where it is up
    42        there -- your written statement.  You had it yesterday.  My
    43        Lord, it is in 1B.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Pale blue 1B, right at the very back.
    46
    47   MR. RAMPTON:  1B, it is the last document in 1B, or it should
    48        be.  Your time sheets are behind the statement, I think.
    49        A.  No, it is not here.  (Same handed)
    50 
    51   Q.   First of all, look at paragraph 6 on the last page, the 
    52        very last sentence, where you say:  "The boning 
    53        temperatures of the meat in the boning hall at the Alec
    54        Jarrett Limited were as a rule above 7 degrees centigrade".
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:   "Well above".
    57
    58   MR. RAMPTON:  Yes, "... well above plus 7 degrees centigrade".
    59        Have you measured that yourself?
    60        A.  Yes, I did.