Day 120 - 03 May 95 - Page 03
2 Q. As far as you know, are the conditions for McDonald's
3 workers any different in other European countries,
4 fundamentally different, in any respect or are roughly the
5 conditions of service the same?
6 A. I would say roughly they are the same.
8 Q. You said that there must be many members of trade unions
9 amongst your staff, especially in support staff, for
10 example in construction and marketing; that is what you
13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Did you say marketing?
14 A. I think I did, I think I did, either marketing or
15 purchasing, one of the two, and -----
17 MR. MORRIS: It is not crucial.
18 A. My answer would be, in view of what his Lordship has
19 just said, I do not know, I imagine there would be.
21 MR. MORRIS: That would include, logically, because, as you say,
22 people come to McDonald's and they are already members of a
23 union, previously, that would include some crew staff,
24 would it not?
25 A. Again I have to say I do not know.
27 Q. But, logically, if they are many -----
29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It seems to me what you are really saying is
30 you do not know but it would not surprise you if
31 people ---
32 A. It would not surprise me if there were.
34 Q. -- came from other jobs or as union members?
35 A. That would not surprise me, my Lord.
37 MR. MORRIS: Right. But when you say "support staff", do you
38 mean people employed by McDonald's in support work for the
39 stores or do you mean people not employed by McDonald's?
40 A. No, I was referring when I gave that answer to people
41 working for McDonald's in what we call the Support
44 Q. Right.
46 MR. JUSTICE BELL: As opposed to crew in the restaurants?
47 A. As opposed to Operations, my Lord. Operations are
48 easily the biggest part of our employment force. They run
49 the restaurants. The rest build them, stock them, find
50 them, service them in one way or another.
52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I understand all that because they may well
53 have worked in a confined industry like construction
54 industry or they may be electricians or whatever. I only
55 queried marketing because I could not see how you put
56 marketing in quite the same box?
57 A. No, I do not know. I mean, I have never asked anyone
58 if they are a member of a union.
60 Q. No, very well.