Day 145 - 29 Jun 95 - Page 02
1 Thursday, 29th June 1995.
3 (See separate transcript for hearing in chambers)
5 (Proceedings in open court)
7 MR. STANLEY RICHARD STEIN, recalled.
8 Cross-Examined by the Defendants, Continued.
10 MS. STEEL: Mr. Stein, you said I think on the first day of
11 your evidence that safety was another department to yours.
12 Does McDonald's have a Health and Safety Officer in the
13 United States?
14 A. We have someone who is responsible for the insurance
15 area and, in general, the Operations people maintain
16 responsibility for that area as well.
18 Q. So there is no-one with a specific title of Head of Health
19 and Safety ---
20 A. No, there is not.
22 Q. -- with a specific responsibility solely for that area?
23 A. I think it would be a shared kind of thing between the
24 Insurance Department, outside experts, and the Operations
27 Q. In the USA crew are encouraged to run whilst they are
28 serving customers and preparing food, are they not?
29 A. No, they are not encouraged to run.
31 Q. Management are trained to encourage crew to run?
32 A. That is incorrect.
34 Q. Has that changed recently then?
35 A. No, it has not.
37 Q. So what is the reason you say they are not encouraged to
39 A. Because we expect them to move safely with dispatch and
40 quickly, not in slow motion, but we certainly do not want
41 them running.
43 Q. Because it would be unsafe?
44 A. I think it is obvious that you just do not want people
45 running in a place of business.
47 Q. Right, but why is that?
48 A. Because you respect the fact that it is not the kind of
49 thing you would do.
51 Q. Why, though?
52 A. I have never thought of it from the way you are asking
53 it. It is not something we ask our people to do. It is
54 not the kind of thing we want in our restaurants. That is
55 -- we do not need people to run.
57 Q. What is wrong with running in the kitchen and behind the
60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: There is a difficulty about this because it