Day 154 - 13 Jul 95 - Page 03
2 MS. STEEL: I mean, we brought this up on Monday.
4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, but you did not tell me what the
5 application was. You said you wanted to mention the
6 question of transcripts.
8 MR. MORRIS: I am sorry about that.
10 MS. STEEL: I thought we said we wanted to make an application
11 regarding the transcripts on Friday.
13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But you did not say whether it would take
14 five minutes or an hour, or however long it will take. You
15 may assert it as much as you like, but you have to accept
16 that I have far greater experience of litigation than you
17 do, and I know what evidence we are going through at the
18 moment. I just cannot accept that it will disadvantage you
19 in any way if -- all we are contemplating at the moment is
20 a few days before you make your application -- if there are
21 a few days over which you do not, the following morning,
22 get transcripts of the evidence the day before. I just
23 cannot accept that.
25 I am perfectly content to work on my note, and I think you
26 can work on yours. The only transcript you will get in any
27 event tomorrow morning, if you were to get one, would be a
28 transcript of the completion of your cross-examination of
29 Mr. Davis and any re-examination which Mr. Rampton proposes
30 to conduct.
32 I am not being obstructive to your interests. One has to
33 be realistic about what part transcripts actually play in
34 these proceedings.
36 MR. MORRIS: That is why we have prepared extensively for an
37 application over the transcripts, because last time we had
38 not prepared ; and at that time it was only a threat from
39 the Plaintiffs, but not -----
41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just listen to me again. We are not arguing
42 about whether you should not bring the matter back before
43 me. I expressly left the door open in the ruling which
44 I gave that you should do that. All we are discussing is
45 whether it should be on Friday, tomorrow, or Tuesday or
46 some time such as that, by which time you will have had at
47 most three days of evidence -- that is, today, Friday and
48 Monday -- of which you will not have got a transcript. You
49 will have been taking a note; you will have had CaseView to
50 help you perfect your note as you go along. You have two
51 people sitting behind you who may be able to help you with
52 that. I cannot see -----
54 MS. STEEL: Can I just say that we have not two people sitting
55 behind us.
57 MR. JUSTICE STEEL: Well, one, then, one person.
59 MS. STEEL: Who has no legal experience and is not a notetaker.