Day 160 - 21 Jul 95 - Page 02

     1                                      Friday, 21st July 1995.
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, what do you want to do?
     5   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  We have an application for leave to appeal
     6        being heard this morning ---
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I understand.
    10   MR. MORRIS:  -- which is not before 12.00.
    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    14   MR. MORRIS:  Helen at the moment is rushing about trying to copy
    15        all the documents which the judges require.  It is in front
    16        of Lord Justice Kennedy and Sir Roger Parker.  I would
    17        like, if possible, to have an adjournment.  I am applying
    18        for an adjournment, certainly until that has been dealt
    19        with.
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Subject to anything Mr. Rampton says,
    22        there would not be any problem about that were it not for
    23        Mrs. Farrer's position.  Obviously, I would like to help
    24        her if there is any way of doing so.
    26   MR. MORRIS:  If it is appropriate, then we could complete her at
    27        2 o'clock.  If we start at 2.00, we will guarantee we will
    28        finish by the end of the day.
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  As I understand it, counsel is helping you in
    31        relation to that application for leave to appeal?
    33   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is Ms. Steel with him now?
    37   MR. MORRIS:  He is actually on another case, but he is trying to
    38        complete that to come back for the application.  She is
    39        doing things like serving the paper work that the judges
    40        require and the administrative matters, basically, paying
    41        the fee.
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  My attitude is that I should do
    44        everything, again subject to what Mr. Rampton says, which
    45        enables you to present your application for leave.  But, on
    46        the other hand, I do not want to sign away time if it is
    47        unnecessary to do so.  My understanding is that Lord
    48        Justice Kennedy and Sir Roger Parker may have been ready to
    49        deal with the application before 12 noon, but they have
    50        marked it not before 12 noon because the Member of the Bar 
    51        who is assisting you would not be available until then 
    52        anyway. 
    54   MR. MORRIS:  That is correct.
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What occurs to me is that Ms. Steel, with
    57        your help, might get everything filed and ready comfortably
    58        before 12.00 and then there is nothing that either of you
    59        can do anyway because the barrister who is going to help
    60        you is not there.  Do you see what I mean?

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