Day 160 - 21 Jul 95 - Page 04

     
     1        not know -- it would go on to hear the substantive appeal
     2        straightaway, which means that we would not probably have
     3        any evidence at all today.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  One cannot foresee.
     6
     7   MR. RAMPTON:  One cannot predict that.  I am just wondering
     8        about Mrs. Farrer, that is all.  In all the circumstances,
     9        although one might lose half a day's evidence, the right
    10        thing might not be to release her entirely for today.  But
    11        I am not terribly keen on that.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  And then, in effect, call it a day, do you
    14        mean?
    15
    16   MR. RAMPTON:  In effect, call it a day or there is another
    17        witness, of course, coming to court not knowing anything
    18        about this application for leave to appeal.  What we might
    19        be able to do, exceptional as it is, if we come back at
    20        2.00 Mrs. Farrer could have gone to do the things she wants
         to do and we could start that other witness, who is still
    22        anticipating to give evidence.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am very sympathetic to what you wanted to
    25        do today.  Just what does it involve, Mrs. Farrer?  One has
    26        to just, I am afraid, help witnesses (as one tries to do)
    27        to realise that court cases are terribly inconvenient for a
    28        lot of people.  Must you be there?
    29
    30   THE WITNESS:  If I can go now, if I am not wanted this morning,
    31        I could do it now and I could be back by this afternoon.
    32        I can do that.
    33
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  That is brilliant.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think that is the best solution.  What
    37        I think you should do is -- where are you going to do
    38        this?
    39
    40   THE WITNESS:  I am going home.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is where, in North London somewhere?
    43
    44   THE WITNESS:  Yes, Holloway.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  When will you finish doing what you are going
    47        to do?
    48
    49   THE WITNESS:  I do not know; it is basically shopping.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Will it be over by 1 o'clock? 
    52 
    53   THE WITNESS:  Yes, certainly.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I think you should do before you leave
    56        court is speak to Mrs. Brinley-Codd, make some arrangement
    57        to ring her sometime around 1 o'clock and she will make
    58        whatever arrangement she thinks is the most effective.
    59        Then you will be told whether we would like you to come
    60        back this afternoon or not; do you understand?