Day 169 - 04 Oct 95 - Page 02
1 Wednesday, 4th October 1995.
3 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, Mr. Richards is still here and before his
4 cross-examination continues, can I give your Lordship an
5 update on the position with regard to the incident report
6 forms? We still cannot find any report forms from 1994
7 which your Lordship ordered or indicated we should
8 disclose. We will go on looking for those. Mr. Richards
9 will have another look at the store when he gets back. As
10 your Lordship says he should not talk to anybody there
11 while he is giving evidence, so he will not do that.
13 What we have done in the meantime is to find the only two
14 forms that we know of that exist from Bath from 1993 when,
15 of course, Mr. Logan was still there. One of them, it
16 appears, at least, was actually filled in by Mr. Richards,
17 so it may be that we can actually give some direct evidence
18 about that incident. May I, therefore, hand those out?
21 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us just read these through now.
23 MS. STEEL: Can I just raise something which I
24 actually intended to raise yesterday which I thought I
25 remember from when we saw the previous incident report
26 forms, but from seeing these ones? Yesterday I think it
27 was said that they were looking for them at Sutton
30 MR. RAMPTON: That is right.
32 MS. STEEL: At the top of this it does say that the white copy
33 goes to East Finchley Insurance, in the top right-hand
34 corner, the pink goes to Security Personnel, yellow to
35 Senior Supervisor and green to store file. So there are
36 four copies in existence and certainly I would have thought
37 that the copy kept for insurance purposes would be kept for
38 longer than three years, if not forever, but certainly for
39 longer than three years. Since 1994 is only last year,
40 they should still be available at Head Office.
42 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, my instructions are that all those
43 sources have been tapped. It does not mean that the 1994
44 forms will not in due course be found somewhere. Perhaps
45 there is another copy at Bath and perhaps we will find one
46 at East Finchley or in Sutton Coldfield, I do not know.
47 But in the time available all those sources have been
48 tapped and so far we have come up with nothing. We can
49 read too.
51 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will wait and see what comes of it. We
52 have got to come back to discovery with regard to Bath
53 generally in any event. If you want to ask Mr. Richards
54 about anything on those forms, by all means do so this
55 morning. For the time being -- perhaps someone can
56 remember -- I will put them behind Mr. Richards' statement
57 in my yellow XA bundle.
59 MR. RAMPTON: I would only ask him one thing, could the witness
60 have that?