Day 239 - 23 Apr 96 - Page 03

     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I can see that one could say, where one comes
     2        under the issue -----
     4   MR. RAMPTON:   Yes.  What I am really saying is that it is not
     5        the issue.
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I know.  The difficulty is this, it seems to
     8        me, that while adhering to the ruling I have made, one has
     9        got the knock-on effect and then one has got what I call
    10        the "ripple effect" as well, which I have not been prepared
    11        to exclude.  What I make of it at the end of the day is
    12        another matter entirely, but what I described as the
    13        "ripple effect" -- I cannot remember whether I actually
    14        used that in the judgment; I certainly used it in open
    15        court, which is another version of the hamburger connection
    16        which is saying that the more one encourages the eating of
    17        beef, the more ranching there is all over the place.
    19        At the end of the day, that may not be very attractive
    20        because I have got to draw a line and say, one person who
    21        has got one steer in the field somewhere is making a
    22        contribution to a cattle ranching which is knocking down
    23        the Brazilian rainforest, but I am not prepared to give any
    24        ruling on it at this stage.
    26        So, I appreciate the point you are making, that whatever is
    27        in the statement about actual cattle ranching in the
    28        Brazilian rainforest, at the end of the day, may have
    29        nothing whatsoever to do with what appears in this leaflet
    30        or any justification of it, but I am prepared to reserve
    31        judgment until I have heard all the comment made on both
    32        sides with regards to that.
    34   MR. RAMPTON:  I understand that but I hope your Lordship
    35        understands my anxiety.  I do not mind if the statement
    36        goes in for your Lordship to read.  I do have an anxiety
    37        about:  (a) the use of court time for what I see as a
    38        purposeless exercises, and also, of course, I have an
    39        anxiety about the fact that this is in open court.  There
    40        does not actually happen to be a huge gallery of public or
    41        press here, so perhaps it does not matter very much.
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  I do not think it is going save much
    44        time reading it through.
    46   MR. RAMPTON:  That is a minor concern.
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   One thing I have tried not to concern myself
    49        with in this case is the publicity one way or the other.
    51   MR. RAMPTON:  No, but your Lordship will understand my concern. 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Absolutely.  I perfectly understand the
    54        reason why you have made the point.
    56   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think that it is unnecessary to use the
    57        court for the purposes of time wasting and I disagree very
    58        strongly with everything that Mr. Rampton has said.
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not, or you will tempt me to say

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