Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 03

     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where are you?
     4   MS. STEEL:   On page 4, (ii).  It is part of 7A.2, which starts
     5        on the previous page.
     7   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We will have to wait and see.  It is not
     8        necessarily hearsay, it might be.  What we have done in the
     9        past where things are not necessarily hearsay where
    10        objection has been taken to your witnesses' statements if
    11        they were necessarily hearsay I have excluded them; if not,
    12        they have gone in and then Mr. Rampton in cross-examination
    13        has sought to ascertain whether they are hearsay or not.
    15   MS. STEEL:   It is also irrelevant anyway.  I mean, I am
    16        basically making a formal objection.  So that is my
    17        position.  The next one is paragraph 9, the last sentence,
    18        the part in brackets at the very end, I am objecting to
    19        that, although I may want to ask the witness questions
    20        about it anyway so I do not know whether there is much
    21        point.
    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which one is that?
    25   MS. STEEL:   About the name Webster.  I am objecting to it on
    26        the grounds that we kept asking the Plaintiffs for further
    27        and better particulars of this and I did say at the time
    28        that I would object if they brought it up at trial at a
    29        later date.  However, it may go to the accuracy of any
    30        information that was given which, obviously, is hearsay
    31        anyway way to Mr. Nicholson.
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think I need to know.  There is no doubt
    34        about identity, is there; that you were the person there
    35        and holding one end of the banner at an earlier stage?
    37   MS. STEEL:   I am not denying that I was at the protest, and
    38        that at some stage I was holding one end of the banner.
    39        However, that does not necessarily mean that ---
    41   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, if there was an issue about identity then
    42        it might be relevant to have any name in which you were
    43        identified to the witness; if there is no issue about
    44        identity then you might be right in your objection.  That
    45        is the only reason I ask.
    47   MS. STEEL:   I am not sure I understand.  Well, really because
    48        I want to ask Mr. Nicholson about the ----
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is there any reason why my screen keeps going 
    51        out every two or three minutes? 
    52        (Problem with computer screen) 
    54   MS. STEEL:   The position is that basically because I want to
    55        ask Mr. Nicholson about the information he was
    56        getting ----
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not worry about that, if it is not
    59        admissible in the first instance I will exclude it and it
    60        is entirely up to you whether you explore it in

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