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is it necessary to threaten them with hell or a vengeful God?

Posted by: Lark ( Soldiers for Socalism, Ireland ) on March 22, 1999 at 17:50:04:

In Reply to: Wait a second. posted by Shaun on March 22, 1999 at 11:43:17:

:Nobody is born saved, so Christians know what it is like to be an un-saved person because we were all there at one point in our lives. But somebody told us about Jesus and since trusting him, we become heirs of the kingdom of God rather than eternity in hell with satan.

Right if Satan is the enamy of God why is God so keen on turning people over to him? Is this what your saying because this is how it seems?

What about all the people in the world who havent heard of the Christian faith or dont think it's attractive yet live very "Christian" lifestyles, even inspired by Christ? For instance there was Ghandi who followed the teaching of Christ as interpreted by Tolstoy but never became a Christian in the theological sense, there is also the Christian Atheism of some Tolstoyists who believe that Christ was just a man.

You are displaying ignorance of other faiths here, something I find characturistic among evangelists, the Muslims believe Jesus was a great teacher/prophet sent from Allah but not the Son of God, some Jewish sects believe that Jesus was a great prophet also trying to effect a reformation style change within the Jewish faith, Buddhists see the life as Christ as distinctly parallel to that of Buddha while Hindus see Christ, by way of Ghandi, as a religious figure also.

Atheists and humanists also see Christ as living an exceptionally good life if not one that is beyond this one.

In fact I'd be very surprised if, like Winstanley the leader of the Diggers, there arent very few people in Hell. Other than the enamies of God EG Satanists atheists who declare themselves enamies of God I consider mistaken and if they dont realise it here I think they'll be given opportunity when they die.

: Put it this way. If you knew that there was a bomb in a building and an explosion is inevitable sometime during the day, and there was nothing you could do to stop it, out of pure unselfishness and love, wouldn't you do everything you can to warn the people in the building? That's what Christians are doing.

Yes and is it necessary to use terrorism? If people can not be persuaded by the virtues of a Christian Lifestyle or spiritual enlightenment is it necessary to threaten them with hell or a vengeful God?

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: McSpotlight: This presupposes that the Christians are right and everyone else is wrong; a fairly insulting assumption to anyone who isn't Christian.


This is true at least the Catholic Faith has acknowledged at last that God is in touch with everyone, even those with "no faith" in anything, otherwise we could kill etc. without any remorse what so ever.



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