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It's more than just a 'lifestyle', sweetie.

Posted by: Farinata ( L'inferno ) on March 30, 1999 at 12:16:43:

In Reply to: As gross as it may be, it is a lifestyle some people choose posted by Shaun on March 30, 1999 at 11:44:26:


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: I agree with the first poster in that homosexuality is disgusting and a perverted lifestyle, and it is certainly not normal and it is NOT how God created you.

Personally, I believe that my parents created me...

: However, I also agree with McSpot's last statement that what people do in private is thier own business (unless laws are broken). My main problem with gay people is not that thier gay, because personally, I don't care one way or the other what your sins are, but that they have to shove it down other peoples throats. If your gay, fine-keep it behind closed doors.

WHY? What is there to be ashamed of, dammit? You're the only person getting steamed up.

Do you get infuriated by heterosexual couples being affectionate in public? If not, then why are you advocating apartheid on the basis of your own prejudices?

Keeping it behind "closed doors", as you put it, would be the act of people ashamed of what they are; in fact, one of the most liberating experiences of a homosexual's life is realising that they have the self-confidence to come "out of the closet" and admit in public what they are.

As a Christian, do you insist that Muslim women dress like Christian women? So why do you insist that gays behave in an unnatural (to them) fashion to satisfy your prejudices?

: But there is no need for people of the same sex to show thier affections for each other in public.

Nor for heterosexuals to show theirs, but they do it. Are you really demanding that gays be treated as second-class citizens?

: If you want to be gay (a popular misconception is that gay people are born that way) then you should do it in private.

And do you believe that gay-bashing is a force for good; the fact that gay men are likely to be beaten up just for expressing their sexual identity in public, in just the same way that blacks would get beaten up for dating white girls in the Deep South?

Are you suggesting that gays should creep into a quiet corner, keep their heads down, pray for forgiveness and thank the people who hit them around the head with iron bars?

As the moderator said, part of the outré nature of gay culture is the refusal to be intimidated by homophobic fascists and bigoted Christians. That's why they make a show; to demonstrate that they are your equals and that they are not afraid.

: I don't think any less of gay people, I just believe they are making a terrible decision.

It's their decision. Not yours.

: One thing thing that I totally abhor is when gay couples adopt children, or when gay couples living together are open to thier kids about it.

Funny. I always thought that the most important thing you could give a growing kid was care and love. In what way are gays unable to fill this requirement?

: When a gay couple is open about thier sexuality to thier children, it is one of the most selfish, perverted and destructive things you can do to a child for these reasons:

: 1) It gives the impression to the child that this lifestyle is normal and acceptable, thus providing the kid another option on how he/she can live his/her life

Which it bloody well is! I've never met the child of a gay couple who wasn't fully aware that it was their own decision; gay couples tend not to try and force their kids into the cultural norm the way straight parents do.

One of my best friends and her girlfriend are expecting a kid. I know her; she will make a great mother. I find your insistence that she be stopped from breeding because of her inclination highly insulting. When you consider the number of human wastes of space produced by straight parents every year, I think she has as much right to children as anyone.

: 2)Any child whose parent is openly gay is undoubtedly going to be taunted, picked on and beat up for the decision the parent made. It isn't fair to put a young child through a living hell because the parents feel like being gay

Excuuuse me? Go back forty years and you'd here the same rhetoric used about mixed-race couples. Where does the picking-on come from? It comes from the bigoted opinions of parents who indoctrinate their kids into fag-hating.

Do I remember 'tolerance' being a Christian virtue, or did I read the Bible wrong? - maybe God actually wants people to run out and kill fags.

You're not going to stop kids of gay couples being abused except by stopping the abusers being educated not to hate homosexuals in the first place.

: Marraige should, and must always be considered a union strictly for a man and a woman. Homosexuality is not normal, it is something people choose for themselves.

According to your religion, not according to anthropology. And guess what, your religion is illogical...

: No animals can be gay, there's proof right there that it isn't natural.

Wrong. Most primates are known to display homosexual behaviour. Especially chimps.

: If all people were gay we would become extinct

Well, no shit, Sherlock! What you're saying is like the classic old line that if all women worked, they wouldn't have babies and we'd all become extinct.

I've never heard any gay suggest that *everyone* should be gay; merely that people be treated equally regardless of sexual inclination. Equality. You know, like everyone being valued _the same_?

(and anyway, an entirely gay society could reproduce; they'd just do it using artificial insemination.)

Farinata.

(Why must I share the planet with you? - not that you're sharing...)


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