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Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on April 29, 1999 at 10:15:13:

In Reply to: Damaging? A view? posted by lark on April 28, 1999 at 14:25:20:

: Damaging? A view? That's not very libertarian. O.K. so I'm doing it now, accusing you of being anti-liberty because we disagree. I fail to see how my views damage anyone.

Hmmm, calling people unnatural perverts, and marginalising their identity, excluding subjectivity types from mainstream social discourse...hmmmm....

: And long may you think that but there was a stage at which sex with a same sex partner was viewed in the same light as sex with children. Persoanlly I wish that was the way it was now.

Really, where and when? And why are teh two co-terminal? btw- your argument has beeen used by other groups- some radical feminists used the line 'all penetration is rape' because power differentials between the sexes millitates against women being able to give informed consent- without an appeal to nature, you run the risk of promoting that view...

: Yes Red Guilty put my head in that noose for the grand charge of not measuring up to "true" libertarianism, "true" Socialism etc.

No comment.

: Excuse me while a copiously vomit.

Excused.

: That just wasnt what was going to happen in that Church now was it, heaps of respect for others from the homo lobby there.

Heaps of respect from bishop Carey, who voted and spoke against equalising the age of consent in the Mainland. Disestablishemnt seems a better idea all the time...

: I dont think it's funny and what's more I think the gey liberation you talk of has happened everything now is about attention seeking. Sex is a private matter not a public matter.

Really, nonsense, its a public matter 'and this is my boyfriend', kerchunk! Heterosexual imagery is everywhere, Clause 28 prevents teachers from 'rpomoting homosexuality as a valid alternative lifestyle' (which can be a real bugger when one kid calls another a poof:
Teacher: You mustn't call timmy that.
Kid: Why not?
Teacher: erm...erm...*bollocks*).
Homosexual sex is still *barely* legal (it must occur only in a place, otehr than a toilet, which would be considered private even if you had not locked the door, and there can never be more than two present) such laws don't apply to heterosexuals. The fight is not yet won.

: What? I dont reckon God would damn you for stupid things like that, if he did he'd be a pretty fickle God, infact he'd be more like a human than a God. This is a different debate though isnt it.

Erm, masturbation was a mortal sin (sin of Onan), however, the Church revised thr rules, I think now its allowed for 'medical' (mental health)reasons, and is only a venial sin...changed about 6 years ago, a bit to late for me, I just hope its retroactive...though there is the minor atheism matter as well ;)



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