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I'm not - don't worry.

Posted by: Stuart Gort ( USA ) on May 25, 1999 at 11:06:46:

In Reply to: There is no absolute frame of reference...unless you're God, of course. posted by Gideon Hallett on May 23, 1999 at 22:34:15:

:: You think the Bible is an unchanging standard? Can you read Hebrew and back up this belief; or do you believe the Bible is unchanging because you've been told to believe that the Bible is unchanging?

I get around with Hebrew - not wonderfully. Which manuscript is in question Gideon?

:: (I can read Hebrew; and there are enough differences between Biblical and modern Hebrew, let alone the differences acquired from translating to English through Ancient Greek.)

Translations may improve with time but the manuscripts do not change.
Translating is an art. More colloquially precise translations arrive as the art progresses.

:: Wanking is wrong! We're all going straight to Hell!
(for which of us hasn't, at some point...?)

How'd we get here from my original post?

:: I want to burn forests, myself.

Actually Gideon, your the guy who suggests that is immoral.

:: I like burning forests so much that I'm going to continue burning forests regardless of what anyone else says. I don't care if it damages the planet or causes suffering - I must be allowed to torch forests in the name of freedom.

You could give me a half inch of slack here and admit that a government that tells you what not to eat meat is tyrannical or at least a bit oppressive but nooo... you'd rather be contrary. I know darned well you don't like being told what.

::: If secular law finds its way into my diet I will rebel.

:: *really*? Do you habitually ignore the laws of the country you live in?; a country which took especial care to put the separation of Church and State into the Constitution...

Be more clever Gideon. Our constitution prohibits the government from establishing a state religion - that is all. It took the concerted efforts of godless liberals to remove any hint of theism from common discourse in public institutions.

:: Speaking personally, I'd find the idea of a religious state far more repellant; just look at the countries which are run by theocracies.

Consider earth worship a religion and you might be closer to a religious state than you care to think.

Stuart Gort


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