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Point of Order Mr. Speaker.

Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on June 22, 1999 at 14:54:57:

In Reply to: Some of them deserve it. posted by Stuart Gort on June 22, 1999 at 12:29:12:

: Can communism as practiced by the Soviet Union, for instance, be considered evil?

It wasn't communism, no-one in the Soviet Union called it communism, they called it Socialism. A little evidence of knowledge would do your case some good.

:Do you dispute the body count of communsist governments. For the sake of this argument I will concede that pure marxism was not practiced in the USSR. My point to Sam was that the "Black Book of Communism" has claimed some 85 to 100 million murdered directly by their communist governments.

Presumably one of those Governments was Cambodia, if so I have to ask the Honourable Gentleman's opinion on the reagan Administrations *support* for the ousted Khmer Rouge, both politically and militarilly? I have to ask the Honourable gentleman's opinion on the Bombing of non-communist Laos and Cambodia. I ahve to ask the Honourable gentlema's opinion on the persistant and total support by the US for the Suharto regime, which *directly* killed over 500,000 people. I have to ask about the ongoing Genocide perpetrated by teh West in Iraq, with 2,000-5000 babies dying of malnutrition every month.

Perhaps, just perhaps, US military spending isn't as Heroic as it sounds.

:There isn't much argument being offered to dispute what is in the book. It was prepared by a group of well respected french researchers.

Perhaps because some people round here think the murder tallies by State Capitalist Regimes aren't that much greater that free market capitalist regimes...and yes, death by neglect is still murder.

: Communist atrocities have occurred in far, far greater numbers than those American atrocities that occurred because of fringe elements of the anti-communist movement and faulty U.S. policy.

This includes the illegal bombings of non-cmmbattant nations then?

Strangely, though, I can't find the Black Book of Communism in our Uni Library... who are the authors?


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