:: It wasn't communism, no-one in the Soviet Union called it communism, they called it Socialism. A little evidence of knowledge would do your case some good.It will be a great consolation to those who survived to know that their families were decimated by socialism - not communism. We can certainly count on some people to bring up this point while overlooking the depravity of imperial Marxists. Do you suppose maybe that you missed my point, Deathy?
:: Presumably one of those Governments was Cambodia, if so I have to ask the Honourable Gentleman's opinion on the reagan Administrations *support* for the ousted Khmer Rouge, both politically and militarilly? I have to ask the Honourable gentleman's opinion on the Bombing of non-communist Laos and Cambodia. I ahve to ask the Honourable gentlema's opinion on the persistant and total support by the US for the Suharto regime, which *directly* killed over 500,000 people. I have to ask about the ongoing Genocide perpetrated by teh West in Iraq, with 2,000-5000 babies dying of malnutrition every month.
Right! I've clearly admitted the failure of U.S. policy in many of these instances in previous posts. You have no intention of finding fault in communist imperialism, do you!? You have no intention of ascribing any moral imperative to the actions of the U.S. that opposed it, do you!? You really don't believe an egalitarian ideal can become depraved, do you!?
::There isn't much argument being offered to dispute what is in the book. It was prepared by a group of well respected french researchers.
:: Perhaps because some people round here think the murder tallies by State Capitalist Regimes aren't that much greater that free market capitalist regimes...and yes, death by neglect is still murder.
That's cute. Capitalism is guilty no matter what. I want you to know I'm not here to defend capitalism so much as get you to see your own blind trust in men and the plots they devise to remove the stain of their own depravity. Look at what you've done here, Deathy. You've completely glossed over the hundred million dead at the hands of the practioners of your ideology by blaming it on capitalism.
Look, your not going to remove communist culpability by calling the U.S.S.R. capitalist. That's not my argument. I argue that the U.S. was morally correct to stop whatever it is you wish to call the imperial collectivist machine that was the Soviet Union.
:: Communist atrocities have occurred in far, far greater numbers than those American atrocities that occurred because of fringe elements of the anti-communist movement and faulty U.S. policy.
:: This includes the illegal bombings of non-cmmbattant nations then?
Sure! Hold the U.S. policy maker's feet to the fire if his tactic used in morally opposing widescale depravity was illegal or immoral itself. I have no desire to support immorality on any level. Make sure, however, that when you do this you don't offer a blanket condemnation of all U.S. servicemen, most of which are committed to honor.
: Strangely, though, I can't find the Black Book of Communism in our Uni Library... who are the authors?
Put "Black Book of Communism" in your browser and find out. It's on the best seller list in France and has cause a great deal of commotion in the upper levels of government there.
Stuart Gort
