: You raised an interesting issue. Why attend open meetings held by groups I believe to be deliberately deceptive and criminal? Why ought I bother to make a presence at functions of these sorts?
: A few reasons:
: 1) Education – Although the subject matter of these proceedings tend to be a twisted mass of propaganda, spin doctoring and circus, there is an underlying system of linguistic tactics used to forward these various agendas. Just as Mr. Goebbels was rather meticulous in using crowds and theatrical flourishes to popularize the Nazi message, so also does the Left use the academic setting to legitimize their own system of beliefs, concentrating their message most often on the most privileged and wealthy members, and choosing those that are most lucrative and least likely to reject them via experience (i.e., the 20 something nomenklatura, children of the ‘capitalists’). Observing someone like Angela Davis or Andrea Dworkin “work” a crowd is most informative.
: 2) Waving the Flag – This means not so much ‘agitation’ (waving a cloth before the bull), nor does it means patriotism, per se. The idea is to show that these groups do not possess a unified front of fanatical followers, ready to fight the good fight. My quiet dissention at such meetings, and their reaction to my legitimate questions, shows the hosts for what they are – crooks, thieves, charlatans and con-artists of the most base stripe.And what makes you ramblings any more valid? (rhetorical question)
: 3) Evidence – When deciding an issue, I like to collect facts. It is a strange practice of mine, and is somewhat confusing to those in academia, but I am under the novel impression that empirical evidence actually has some place in decision making. Thus, it is important for me, when deciding whether some group is correct or faulty in their ideology, what exactly it is that this particular group has to say. Thus, my own understanding of Nazism is affected more by the published works and historical deeds of Mr. Hitler, Mr. Goebbels, etc. (so also, my understanding of Communism, as per the ideas and acts of Mr. Marx, Mr. Lenin, Mr. Stalin, etc.) and not on the emotional appeals of some self-appointed moral guide who feels the compulsion to answer my missives on the Internet. I shall not name names, of course.
Your perception of me leads me to wonder at the validity of your perception of said others. Hmm, who is a 'moral guide'? You sound a great deal more zealous in your views than I am in mine. If I try to 'guide' as you seem to interpret, you outright tell people what they should do. A little dictator in your own right.
: 4) Proof – Sometimes, when I relate the excesses of these various organizations in their truth-bending for the Greater Cause, I am met with stark disbelief. I thus bring acquaintances along, from time to time, to show them just what goes on at these affairs.
Oh do tell, and this is how you lost friends as you stated earlier? Because they were so convinced by what you showed them? What I was driving at, is that you seem to be the one with an agenda, so why not spend more time furthuring this on your own platform? It seems this would be more beneficial to your personal interests than being a heckler.
: These sorts of escapades are frequently far less than pleasurable. What I do, as must be readily apparent, is done from a personal loyalty to my principles, and an awareness that if I do not stand for them that they are meaningless. If I allow the challenges of the Left to go unanswered, then many will arrive at the mistaken conclusion that my silence is a kind of passive agreement and acceptance of their message. This is why I suspect that any challenge to these core beliefs is met by such harsh personal innuendo (questions such as: Did you have a mean mother? Did your parents fight? Did your papa beat you, poor dear? Don't you care about anybody other than yourself? Are you a (horrors) Nazi?). The idea is to fend off a rational rebuke by venturing into spurious issues deliberately designed for an emotional impact. In this way, one can forestall the defense of dubious and even murderous arguments in favor of a juvenile exchange of personal insults, thus bringing both parties to a state of undeserved parity. Once one has studied the modus operandi of such individuals, however, this line of inquiry is seen for what it is – the maneuverings of a petulant child, bent on avoiding the obvious repercussions of deliberate and malicious delinquency. Or, in reference to the Church Lady, her questions in reference to the involvement of Mr. Lucifer and Co. are not meant as honest inquiries, which is of course the point.
And i'm sure 'they' are all waiting intently to hear what you have to say. Yep, forces would double if you were a no show. Yep, it sounds like a lot of serious paranoia. But of course why listen to me, i'm a juvenille delinquent petulent child. Hmmm, now that does not sound like someone provoking someone else into silliness to avoid a subject does it? For such a big boy, doc sweety, you are sure good at playing along with the kids. Thanks for being such a good sport, and spewing your hypocritical rampages. You seem to be guilty of all your own accusations at every turn. But since i'm just silly, no need to respond, eh? I'll just say it, and let everyone else think it.
(McSpotlight: just a little bit of editing; we all know what Doc wrote)
: And no, I do not believe that you are being deliberately obtuse because your mommy beat you. That would be unfair to your family, and would contradict my personal belief, borne from my Republican attitudes, that individuals are responsible for their own behavior, and not puppets of their environment or sheep-like masses helpless without the benevolent, guiding hand of some impersonal Party apparatus. It would be refreshing to see you accept the same premise, and desist from these insolent and spurious remarks. It might actually help you come to a more rational basis for understanding the key issues; at the very least, it would make you substantially less annoying.
Oy! OK, now I get it. So no one else is allowed to INFLICT ?!? (paranoia) their beliefs & whatnots on you, but you on the other hand have free reign in this department, unless of course one agrees with you. HA! Oh, and where do you propose masses of sheep get guidance from? You are a part of a society just like anyone else, just as susceptable. Of course we are responsible for ourselves. Blame only hinders and holds one back, such as blaming one for 'inflicting' you.
The beauty part comes when you let go of blame, accept and move on, of course it's not so neat & pact as it sounds. If lightning torched my house it is the cause of my woes, but I have the choice to hold on or let go, such as a person from a disfunctional home. But, of course these are the mere ramblings of me, a goof ball, and many others, who must also be. I surely did not invent these ideas. no It must have been those damn left, rights or middles again. Sometimes I hear their voices in my head at night. They tell me that being true to myself, and being happy and in love with the world are terrible cruel things. I must be silly. By the way you tirades are kind of creepy. Sorry to annoy you! WHy respond, oh that's right, because then I may take that as assent.LOL
