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Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on August 02, 1999 at 12:15:56:

In Reply to: They have no facts of value. posted by DonS on July 23, 1999 at 12:31:05:

: Don: Note that England had a much lower homicide rate than the US before either country had gun control. The US also has a much higher non-firearm homicide rate, suggesting gun control isn't the reason for the difference. Don: Note that Japanese living in the US have a homicide rate lower than those living in Japan. Don: Note that Mexico and Taiwan have higher homicide rates than the US, despite their strict gun control laws. Don: Note that almost every adult male in Switzerland has a full auto assault rifle, and that they have a very low homicide rate.

Erm, excuse me, though, doesn't this also show that Gun ownership is incidental to over-all crime rates eitehr way, i.e. that Widespread Gun Ownership does not actually reduce crime, nor does it create crime, and that in fact guns are a near irrelevence when compared to economic factors in dealing with crime and social order? Just a thunk.


: Don: Lott and Mustard are the only ones to do a nation wide study on the effects of liberalized concealed carry laws.

But not an international one, which would tend to poke some holes in the causation,a nd show that widespread Gun ownership dopsn't prevent murder- apparently there are over 100,000 legally held firearms in the North of Ireland....

:It is by far the best study of its type.

I always note this 'best' with interest, if previous studies were crap,. or non existent, then 'best so far' carries little weight. What time span did it cover (as compared with the past 100 years studies showing poverty and crime going hand in hand?)



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