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Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on August 22, 1999 at 23:20:54:

In Reply to: Golden Ruler posted by Stuart Gort on August 22, 1999 at 13:15:14:

: Well it isn't just me and my Bible you disagree with, Kevin. A recent national survey by The Post, the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard University has 57% of Americans finding homosexuality unacceptable. There were no defining caviats or clauses. When the term "gay sex," was used, a full 72% called that unacceptable. Why did two words make a such a difference if there is no natural aversion or repulsion to homosexuality, eh?

Because there is a cultural and social aversion towards homosexuality? You have a problem here, its called the logic of universality- if you are going to claim that anti-homosexuality is 'natural' then you have to show that *all* humans hold it (certainly 78% is more of the population than are actually Gay, roughly 10% last I heard). After all, all humans naturally have legs, and heads and hearts, with no exceptions.

Further, do you accept that this is a logical fallacie of argument ad numerum, unless you can show that the aversion is natural? To show its not natural, you must show why I as a non-homoesxual, do not find gay sex unaaceptable. You've gotta break out of this situation of self-legitimating arguments, you *always* fall back on this argument that its natural to be disgusted by homosexuality, and you always throw the burden of proof to the contrary argument- but you proove it, proove the cause, all we've got from that survey is the *opinion* of 72%- what is it makes it natural.

remember, a good 70% of Americans once thought Slavery acceptable, was that a 'natural' opinion?


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