: Government---or business, little difference---IS force, the force of one set of property relations upon another.
: Don: The difference is substantial. The buisness down the street isn't going to have some sturmtruppen break in my door. The government might. I don't have to buy what the buisness sells or give them money if I don't want their product. Not so with the government.
: Only conspicuous control is bad? Covert control is OK?
Don: I do not believe that corporations have control over my life. Covert or otherwise. As a consumer, I exert more control over them then they do over me.
: To advocate a society where there exists no government is to advocate a classless society.
: Don: I see no reason why a class system would not exist in the absense of government.
: That's a triple negative there, Don; it's a bit unclear what you're saying...
: But if you ARE saying that a class system would exist WITHOUT government, you have nothing but arid theories to back you up.
Don: Yes, a class system can exist without government.
: Squatters would not be 'dealt with'?
: Or do you support the feudal notion that 'protection' should be private?
Don: I support a minimal state, which will include a justice system.
: Exxon would not like THAT one bit.