- Capitalism and Alternatives -


Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on November 26, 1999 at 12:24:04:

In Reply to: The unvarnished truth... posted by Frenchy on November 26, 1999 at 11:38:22:

: It is quite another thing under capitalism. Here everybody's station in life depends on his own doing.

Not so, those born without any property, nad with a scintilla of concern for their fellow man tend not to do so well as other tyopes might. To claim equality of opportunity, you have to show equality of initial condition, since we are4 born unequal in society, that inequality reproduces itself. tehre are more rags to rags than rags to riches stories.

: The much talked about sternness of capitalism consistes in the fact that it handles everybody according to his contribution to the well being of his fellow men.

Not so, we are not paid according to our labour, but according to the value of our labour power, hence them as are in reserved occupations, such as Managing Directors, can command vastly higher wages - again, football stars, etc. as well.

:The sway of the principle, to each according to his accomplishments, does not allow of any excuse for personal shortcomings.

Thats the rhetoric, not the reality. BTW- did you know that Stalin's Soviet Constitution of 1936 stated "from each accordint to ability, to each according to his work"? That's, erm, what you're advocating, right?

:Everybody knows very well that there are people like himself who succeeded where he himself failed. Everybody knows that many of those whom he envies are self-made men who started from the same point from which he himself started.

Far more started much better off, teh historical record does show how the Capitalist class evolved out of relatively privilleged classes, in most cases. then there's the minor matter of theft of teh common land.

: What makes many feel unhappy under capitalism is the fact that capitalism grants to each the opportunity to attain the most desireable positions which, of course, can only be attained by a few. Whatever a man may have gained for himself, it is mostly a mere fraction of what his ambitions has impelled him to win. There are always before his eyes people who have succeeded where he has failed. There are fellows who have outstripped him and against whom he nurtures, in his subconsciousness, inferiority complexes. Such is the attitude of the tramp against the man with a regular job, the factory hand against the foreman, the executive against the vice-president, the vice-president against the company's president, the man who is worth three hundred thousand dollars against the millionaire and so on. Everbody's self-reliance and moral equilibrium are undermined by the spectacle of theose who have given proof of greater of greater abilities and capacities. Everybody is aware of his own defeat and insufficiency.

Indeed, as Marx put it, if I live in a small shed, next door to a man with a house, even if my house show grow, at the same rate as his, I will always be aware that his house is bigger.

: The price and market system of capitalism is such a society in which merit and achievements determine a man's success or failure.

No, someone who is a highly skilled cleaner will only ever reap teh rewards of a cleaner - capitalism onbly rewards one skill, the ability to make money, by hook or by crook.

: In order to console himself and to restore his self-assertion, such a man is in search of a scapegoat. He tries to persuade himself that he failed through no fault of his own. He is at least as brilliant, efficient and industrious as those who outshine him. Unfortunately this nefarious social order of ours does not accord the prizes to the most meritorious men; it crowns the dishonest unscrupulous scoundrel, the swindler, the exploiter, the "rugged individualist." What made himself fail was his honesty. He was too decent to resort to the base tricks to which his successful rivals owe their ascendancy. As conditions are under capitalism, a man is forced to choose between virtue and poverty on the one hand and, and vice and riches on the other. He, himself, thank God, chose the former alternative and rejected the latter.

But think on, what nonsense is being talked here - someone must work, only a few can succeed, only a tiny number can occupy the top of the pyramid. necessarilly, the system must have some people 'fail', otherwise it would fall apart.

: Their fanaticism in defending their critique of capitalism is precisely due to the fact that they are fighting their own awareness of its falsity.

Ah, the old pyschological attack routine, the old ones are...the old ones...

: The suffering from frustrated ambition is peculiar to people living in a society of equality under the law. It is not caused by equality under the law, but by the fact that in a society of equality under the law the inequality of men with regard to intellectual abilities, will power and application becomes visible. The gulf between what a man is and achieves and what he thinks of his own abilities and acheivements is pitilessy revealed. Daydreams of a "fair" world which would treat him according to his "real worth" are refuge of all those plauged by a lack of self-knowledge."

This, of course, returns to the idea of the few geniuses, to great men, who are born, not made - again, completre rubbish.

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