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Magical Thinking

Posted by: Stoller on November 27, 1999 at 13:12:08:

In Reply to: Exploitation of whom by whom posted by Gee on November 26, 1999 at 22:32:05:

: I assume workers include everyone up to and including the board of directors...

The board of directors are not productive workers. They work in the circulation sphere, perhaps strenuously, but they do not produce any value.* Only workers involved in the production process produce value.

Anyway, that's but a detail...

As expected of all your 'theories,' a straw man lurks.

Here it is in your latest post:

: C. The factory is 'socially' owned by everyone which includes the 100 workers and everyone else. The workers cannot control what happens to the values they create, they cannot realize 100% of it - because the company is not theirs - its 'everyones' which hypothetically, even assuming the sum of 'everyone else' is only 10000, means the workers only have a 1% stake / vote, and thats as a group.

Omitting that the 100 workers would ALSO own a 1% stake / vote in EVERY OTHER CONCERN in society, perhaps 99 other concerns (= 100% stake).

: I understand Job Rotation proposes to resolve the potential of this inequity building up. However, for the same reason someone in a post below said something along the lines of;

: 'would you want your brain surgeon to be a lifetime trained expert or have just come off his salt mine shift, and not seen surgery since his last medical shift 4 years ago'

What the above statement posits is something to the effect of: a brain surgeon spends EVERY WAKING MINUTE thinking about brain surgery; brain surgeons NEVER think about playing with their kids, making a sandwich, washing the family car, or ANY OTHER of a million 'menial' jobs that even the highest trained specialists do throughout their entire lives WHILE still excelling at their formal jobs---for if they did any of those things, they'd become brain surgery fuckups.

What a collection of straw men you assembled, Gee.


* '[N]o value is produced in the process of circulation, and, therefore, no surplus-value.' Marx, Capital volume three, International 1967, p. 279.

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