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Guatemalans fleeing genocide aren't 'political' refugees?

Posted by: Nikhil Jaikumar ( DSA, MA, USA ) on November 30, 1999 at 19:07:33:

In Reply to: Hey! I'm a cheap capitalist!! posted by Frenchy on November 30, 1999 at 10:55:45:

: The plight of refugees is always sad to see, but what about refugees from "capitalist" states such as Mexico, Honduras and Haiti?
: Mexico? Capitalist? Honduras? Haiti? What planet do you live on? Why, by the way did you put capitalist in quotes?

Mexico may not be fully capitalist (it's historically been state capitalist) but Chile certainly is. That might explain why wages there have stagnated since the US overthrew the democratic government and installed a military regime. Nicaragua is capitalist, since 1990, which could explain why they've gone from being teh fastest-growing economy in the Americas under the Sandinistas, to the second-poorest today. Guatemala is most definietly a capitalist state, ever since teh CIA kicked out the elected government in favor of a series of Christian evangelist, genocidal military dictators. Etcetera....

: People from countries such as these do not get our sympathy--indeed they often get our scorn. But refugees from Cuba are ideologically serviceable as their condition can be blamed on the Communist Monster.

: This is an accurate statement. Things are that way probably because it's always been policy to reject economic refugees from political refugees. A sensible seperation.

What idiocy. Mayan villagers fleeing the capitalist Guatemalan dictatorship, or peasants fleeing teh Salvador death squads are not political refugees? No, silly me, of course not. The only thing they face in their home countries is being castrated and burned alive. While teh Cubans, if they returnmed, might actually face a bit of corrective detention. What a difference.

Your right-wing mendacity is getting old.

: The solution to the oppressive regimes found south of the border, I feel, lies in secure private ownership, laws that effect that security and the spread of Capitalism. May never work, just look at the ex-Soviet Union. Part of problem there as well as south of the border is cultural. It may be that some cultures are simply incapable of lifting themselves above subsistence living, especially in countries where, for instance, a caste system enforces one to a certain station. What do you think?

: : This author claims to be "dying to know," but he appears just eager to abuse.
: Actually, it's sarcasm. Abuse is optional.

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