- Capitalism and Alternatives -

And yet it moves.

Posted by: Dr. Cruel on December 02, 1999 at 10:52:25:

In Reply to: ...at yet MORE omissions and distortions posted by Stoller on December 01, 1999 at 18:46:55:

: Oh, you and your 'rights' and 'justice,' Mr. 'Reaganesque foriegn policy'.

DC: Oh, you and your 'rights' and 'justice', Mr. "Terror ain't so bad" Lenin and Mr. "Fear will keep the locals in line - fear of the People's Army" Trotsky. Don't make me snicker, Mr. "Force is justified, so long as WE approve it".

: : Except that the living standards in those nations that have made the transition into the First World, a transition that invariably entailed the establishment of an advanced, complicated system of capitalism and private ownership, are exceptionally high.

: The 'living standards' in Third World sweatshops are 'exceptionally high'?

DC:Not by my standards. But by the standards of the societies in which they exist, they certainly offer much better renumeration than is to be had regionally. This is, of course, how they manage to maintain an sizeable and industrious workforce - as anyone who is reasonably familiar with the MTV would readily understand.

: Are you nuts?

DC: At times, given the fruitless time I spend here, I do sometimes wonder... One must keep hope alive, of course. Mustn't one?

: What an arrogant imperialist!

DC: Given the Newspeak your diatribes frequently are cloaked by, I shall take that as a compliment. Call me a fascist and you'll make my day (again).

Oh, and by the way - the word you seem to be searching for is "smug".

: : In capitalism, a different dynamic operates...

: Yadda yadda yadda---and into the trash with the rest of your propaganda...

Haven't the Russians said something similar in regards to Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, etc. etc.? "Erm"...

"Doc" Cruel

P.S. Love your "use-value" ploy. You have discovered the dodge Marx uses to explain away the market (well, of course, the item must have use-value. Aand... that "use-value" is set by?? Gurgle gurgle, glug glug...).

Oh, Marx. You poor fool. What a legacy of tired, useless words, just to justify your own inadequacies. How so very sad.

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