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One sec, Sam.

Posted by: Farinata ( L'inferno ) on December 02, 1999 at 23:07:39:

In Reply to: The revolution will NOT be televised posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on December 02, 1999 at 16:58:41:

: : Or maybe they're just apolitical thugs. Thugs don't need an excuse to be violent jerks. Or maybe they were agents provacateurs. I'd like to know for sure.

: SDF: Please gain a real understanding of human behavior someday. People aren't "violent jerks" for no reason at all. BTW a fringe anarchist group has claimed responsibility for the shattered McD's windows.

One note here; don't fall into the lie being peddled by the mass media that the Seattle and London protests were peaceful events hijacked by anarchist nutcases. Without the anarchists, there would be no action; or no co-ordinated one, at any rate; we did the legwork organising and co-ordinating the J18 and N30...

(...and I really can't shed too many tears about the broken windows at McDonald's, either in Seattle or in London last June.)

While it may be that a "fringe anarchist" group went round breaking things, many anarchist groups formed non-violent protests as well. As for the looting, it looks rather more as if it was local poor people taking advantage of the state of emergency to help themselves to luxury commodities without paying.

: : That's right, he did. And if there were violent protests (prior to his assumption of power, when all became obvious) outside his offices, combined with a status quo media, then who do you think the masses would find at fault? You can't ignore the power of superficial images, SDF.

: SDF: Well guess what? Seattle has revealed the REAL police state behind the soft-gloved farce we experience daily. And the working class is getting the REAL dope behind the corporate media lie, at least some of it. Did you think liberation would come through CBS? Meanwhile, cadres of nonviolent protesters are getting MACEd by RIOTING POLICE as you read this right now.

- and isn't it great? (on an impersonal level); the state is showing its ugly side to the entire world - on non-violent protestors. Having been in that position more than once I can confirm it's not a fun place to be; but if it politicises the previously apathetic, so much the better. If were in Seattle, I'd be out there with them; just as I was in London last June.

If there is going to be a positive revolution, this has to be one of the best ways of going about it.


(and remember; if I can't dance, it's not my revolution.)

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