: : : Agreed. I haven't read Marx and am not about to. I don't need to spout all the economic theories that fly back and forth on these pages in order to know injustic when I see it -- and I can guarantee that the downtrodden workers know it too, even if they've never finished high school and have no idea who Marx is; they know injustice when they experience it. The thing to do, IMHO, is agree on what's wrong and advocate the most humane and just ways to fix it, and I frankly don't give a damn what "ism" the repairs fall under. Now, having said all that, I'll lean back and prepare for the onslaught of text on a screen.
: : your 101% MDG, where were the socialists when the militias where formed out of people threatened by unemployment and capitalist cultural coup that meant the real reason for this threat was obscured took place?
: : That's right they where having meetings with themselves arguing about who was the most true to Marx, who was the most pure and who where 'liberals', 'bourgousie' etc.
: Thanks Lark, and for what it's worth, I enjoy your posts also (even when you don't go all the way on animal rights, you crypto-vivisector!).
: All this blather about my way or the highway reminds me of the anger I feel every time the issue of national health insurance is raised before the U.S. Congress. Instead of analyzing whether this plan will benefit society, the conservatives immediately scream "SOCIALISM!" and refuse to discuss it any further. Really, who gives a damn if it's a socialistic program, as long as it works? If it alleviates the misery of people who lack health insurance (which I believe it would, as well as being more cost-effective than the present system), then doesn't it make sense to do it? It can be satanism, for all I care, as long as it works. That's the problem with people obsessed with dogma: to put it bluntly, they've got their heads so far up their own asses, all they can see are intestines, and so of course, the only answer is: Intestinalism!
Then why not advocate for Cadillacs for everyone too? Or at least a Toyota Carolla? I mean, you need a car to go to work, don't you? And while your at it, if you want to provide health care, why not a guaranteed wage? And choice of residential neighborhood too, while we're at it.
Where, the question should be put, does the individual take responsibility and where does the government take responsibility for the individual?