: : I agree. Don't leave Bill! Stay and speak out sense for good sense and the Peace and Freedom Party.
: SDF: As far as I can tell, the P & F party has been on the decline for years, mostly because VANGUARDISTS of various types have managed to use strongarm tactics to divide the party against itself. I've only been to one statewide convention, San Diego 1992, and the partisans seem to have no problem with regularly going to the front of the convention hall and denouncing each other in public.
Jes, that'd be class, I wish we could have meetings like that here. Here when I last told a Trot I didn't agree with his love of centralism and state power he called me a liberal and when I said I'm no fucking liberal he grabbed me and I had to smack his head of this table and leg it to some comrades before his homeless looking (they're all middle class but for some reason they all really slum it because they feel guilty about cash) mates got a dig in at me.
Oh, for a decent open air debate that didnt end in a physical fight.