- Capitalism and Alternatives -


Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist Party, UK ) on December 10, 1999 at 15:19:41:

In Reply to: Capitalism posted by David on December 09, 1999 at 10:27:22:

: Lastly, as your debating friends would probably agreem we can't attack Capitalist practice as it has never been put into place the way Adam Smitch, Hayek, Von Mises, Greenspan, and Rand defined it.

Actually, 19th Century England under gladstone came as close as is probably possible to laissezx-faire on earth - Adam Smith's models for equality under capitalism are skewed because he didn't account for the difference between sale of labour's produce and sale of labour power.

: We can, however, attack communism, as we see the misery and poverty it causes every day, even in the "workers paradise."

Actually, no, because none of those state-capitalist bodies came even close to starting to implement Marx's theories, Lenin was near as damnit a Jacobin, its like attacking buddhism for the crimes of christianity... the fundamental error being the difference between the self-activity of a vanguard, and self activity of the self interested masses - even enviopus masses (to keep Frnechy happy).

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