: : BTW, I never got Lark's opinion on this link.
: Oh, er, sorry SDF, I'm totally infavour of that approach, I think it's incredibly insightful. I also agree with what they said about anarchists, although there are exceptions, they are small authoritarian groups, some are conservative morally too in a real incredible sense, I like anarchist groups that are like that but I know it wouldnt compare with an explosive organisation of socialism from below.
: I asked your opinion on it because we are both reformists right?
SDF: Democratic control over the MEANS OF PRODUCTION is reformism?
: We support parties, such as, the greens
SDF: YOUR Greens might be reformists. McNally, the guy whose history and pamphlet you liked, has also written a screed against money: please see his Against the Market.
Ending money? Is that what you'd call "reformism"?
: and I was wondering how you square all this from below stuff with reform from above? I just tend to ignore it, it hasnt caused problems for me and it isnt worth stressing over contradictions to much the worlds a complex place.
SDF: Maybe that's because you live under a parliamentarian system. Here, people like Joel Kovel get to be Greens, because we are not given the chance to reveal the failures of bourgeois democracy like Die Grunen were.
BTW, this guy repeatedly claims that he is NOT a reformist.
Is this a situation in crying need of reformism?