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Mad isnt it?

Posted by: Lark ( The Rabble with a tradition of sedition!!, Citizen of the world, resident of Ireland ) on December 14, 1999 at 14:50:43:

In Reply to: A 'free market' paradigm for environmentalists (yes, Gee, it's another correction that so unnerves you) posted by Stoller on December 14, 1999 at 10:25:06:

: Paraphrasing Gee just a little:


: I think the issue is that the effectiveness of a boycott is down to the individual buying decisions made by millions in the market place. Its this :

: Votes to NOT pollute the environment : 51

: Votes TO pollute the environment : 49
: In fantasy 'democracy' [read: REAL democracy] pollution is STOPPED;

: In market reality [read: capitalist anarchy] pollution CONTINUES.

: Moral of the story:
: Boycotts don't work; only state intervention can.

Hey, Stroller you big horses ass!! I hope your having a good holiday, dont stress to much or sit up all night writting posts about me to often now, do you load coffee big time to do that?

Mad isnt it? Gee's doing the whole red menace thing himself!?!!

Well, states are a bit frail and feeble are they not? I'm not talking about the institutes built in a gunmans shadow here, like, Indonesia or Serbia or Ingeria, that's a real good example, or Pinochets chile, that's a good one too, those last two are examples of the ruling class acting like they know who they are, I'm talking about the sensible or sound state confronted with the forces of global capital.

Look, it was the people that made Seattle, J18, etc. (the trots turned up to annoy everyones cheeseburgers but that aside) through the transfer of information and ultra-media, it's this degree of empowerment and self assured cheeseburger that gets people thinking I dont need states or vanguards or parties, there's man and superman and I'm supercheeseburger!!!! I can do anything!! Then they start to make the revolution for themselves and their lives, not some cause or cheeseburger relish (what is the importance of relish!?!, is Corn relish really nicer than tomato relish? When is taking both on the burger at once not a gross display of greedy hedonism?!) is essentially what they're fighting for.

On the downside Capital is using the net and ultramedia to shift money etc. fast and further cripple the state but, hell, who says we can't, aren't winning?! Not me the Cheseburgers are in the Streets??!!!

Lark, The unstoppable (Hey Chucky, that might be egotism, better put a kung-fu move on me before I hurt the leader!!).

P.S. Cheers for the complement you paid me earlier about how I could combine sensationalism with politics and think up witty slogans that are remembered when all your dialectical wrangling has been forgotten, I guess that comes with obsessive reading of the cunning and guileful figures of history like Machavelli or prisoners like Gramsci or Bakunin (Prison seems to get you thinking so it does, study the lack of cheeseburger, there may be not just cause but effect there).

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