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Walk in the road and you'll get run over.

Posted by: lark on December 14, 1999 at 14:54:15:

In Reply to: Commie, nazi, or in-between? A handy guide. posted by Mr. Ism on December 14, 1999 at 10:28:58:

Some of these is fairly interesting...

: Anarchist: One who opposes all forms of government. Often confused with libertarians, who share many anarchist beliefs; however libertarians still think that there should be a minimal government.

Not bad, I say opposes all barriers to the exercise of the harmless individual and social freewill, the government is just the big example, well was, governments arent as bad they used to be.....

: Capitalism: An economic system in which the means of production (business) is in private hands.


: Communist: One who advocates communal ownership of all property. There is no central government in a communist system.

Better still. 'From each according to their ability to each according to their need/want'

: Conservative: One who opposes change, and seeks solutions to societal problems via traditional methods, especially with regard to "moral" problems" There are also "fiscal" conservatives, but they usually lean more towards libertarianism.


: Democrat: A member of the Democratic party. Note that Democrat is not
: synonymous with liberal. There are some conservatives and moderates
: in the Democratic party, even if the majority of Democrats could be
: considered liberal.

Good, I guess, I dont know.

: Democratic Socialism: Similar to regular socialism, but with a strong emphasis on democratic decision-making, both in politics, and in the running of economic entities.


: Fascist: One who advocates a very strong form of statism, a corporatist
: economy, modernization, regimentation, and strong central leadership.
: Citizens' purpose is to serve the state. Often includes appeals to a
: "glorious" past or pseudo-religious ideal, thus combining several facets of liberalism, conservatism and socialism into an organic vision of society.

And in the modern sense is typified by a slavish love for absolutist competition or it's perfect state, perpetual war and capitalism, supports the freemarket provided the choosen people can own slaves.

: Liberal: Signifies an openness to change and respect for individual liberties within a societal framework in which all have equal opportunity (See Rawls Theory of Justice or Walzer's Spheres of Justice).


: Libertarianism: Libertarians believe in an extremely tiny government whose role is limited to common defense and arbitrating disputes between private individuals (enforcing contracts). Libertarians do not want any government regulation of the social or economic spheres, with complete individual liberty in all areas of life. Conservatives generally agree with libertarians on much (but not all) of their economic platform, while liberals generally agree with libertarians on much (but not all) of their social platform.

True of market libertarians but more specifically is it not simply a position that seeks to defend civil liberties and the individual free will?

: Mixed System: An economic system where the means of production are held by the government in some industries (usually large ones) and in private hands for other industries. Very common in Europe.


: Moderate: Generally, a "middle-of-the-road" set of beliefs, rather than an ideology. Moderates of both parties usually share the traits of
: pragmatism, an aversion to ideology or ideological excesses, and a
: willingness to compromise.

Walk in the road and you'll get run over.

: Nazism: A form of fascism espoused and put into place by Adolf Hitler in Germany. Differs from standard fascism primarily in its emphasis on
: anti-Semitism and eugenics.


: Neo-conservativism: A strain of conservatism that grew out of the Cold War which is much the same as regular conservatism, but without the isolationism and with a much more activist foreign policy.

I'd have said it favours a more authoritarian state and society and obsesses a bit more about punishment but I'm not, not biased.

: Neo-Liberalism: A strain of liberalism with its main emphasis on pragmatic approaches to change.


: "Patriot" movement: A more extreme strain of the radical right with heavy emphasis on millenarian pseudo-Christian religious beliefs, self-reliance, weapons/militia training, and conspiracy theory.

Sounds like Mean bastards to me.

: Populist: A segment of the American public which is strongly conservative on social issues and very protectionist and "anti-big business" on economic issues. Pat Buchanan is the prototypical populist, Ross Perot is a much less virulent example.

But are they that anti-business?

: Progressive: One who actively campaigns for (liberal) change.


: Radical left: Generally those who do not believe liberalism or progressivism are approaches which do enough to change the dominant paradigm in society. Radical leftists are willing to forego traditional ideas of individual liberty (which some of them see as simply another way the dominant paradigm keeps them down) in order to impose programs for change. Differ from liberals in that most liberals want to keep the
: current paradigm.

cool, do youse have a lot of these in the US? Do they advocate much more than nationalised health care?

: Radical right: The strongly conservative minority of society which wishes to solve societal problems by using the government to impose religious-based solutions to moral dilemmas.

Small they gave me the impression they where a big movement.

: Republican: A member of the Republican party. Note that Republican is not synonymous with conservative. There are some liberals and moderates
: in the Republican party, even if the majority of Republicans could be
: considered conservative.

I dont know again but from what I've heard it sounds right.

: Socialist: One who advocates government ownership of the means of production (i.e. business). Often misused by right-wing ideologues who confuse regulation of certain aspects of the economy with government
: ownership of business.

Well, I'd be a socialist and I can see how state ownership would help but I'm hotter on workers control myself, isnt it more: 'From each according to their ability to each according to their work'?

: Statist: Anyone who advocates a strong central government, especially with regard to finding solutions for societal problems. Can apply to both right and left.


: Feel free to add to this list if you think something was overlooked.

I think you've cover it all and bar neo-liberalism, neo-conservatism, facism or nazism I'd fit into damn near all categories.

There is of course the cheeseburger....

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