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A day at the skeets. PULL!

Posted by: Frenchy on December 20, 1999 at 13:51:21:

In Reply to: Frenchy's intellectual tank runs on empty posted by Samuel Day Fassbinder on December 19, 1999 at 20:54:56:

: : $$$$$$$$$$$$Contribute? Or sell? There's a difference. The question is what do those countries do with the money that industrialized countries buy their raw material/finished products with?

: SDF: They pay the interest on their IMF/ World Bank loans, of course.

$$$$$$$$$Is that the source of the 3rd. world's 'contribution' to the Northern economies totalling six Marshall Plans per decade? The repayment of a loan?
Your joking here, aren't you?

$$$$$$$$$$$Uhhh, I think there's a question here you may have unintentionally deleted concerning things like intellectual property rights et al.
Care to give it a shot?

: : $$$$$$$$$$Maybe practical for the tax-payers who would be forced into paying for the incresed education for people who are not interested in that sort of life by a government organ, the IRS, well known for it's aristocratic approach in dealing with taxpayers.

: SDF: Frenchy, too blind to see socialism, would rather remain stupid than take advantage of free education leading to a better job. Meanwhile, half of each dollar Frenchy sends the IRS goes to a bloated military establishment, while his attention is diverted.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Your assuming that everyone would benefit from a free education leading to highly skilled jobs. Where has this occured? In the Soviet Union? In Cuba? Aren't those countries only proof that not everyone has the native ability to do skilled/professional work? Or even wants to do that sort of work? Or does your interest in this have more to do with being an educator yourself and thereby benefitting from gov't sponsored 'educational' spending? Department of Education delenda est.
You'd probably be shocked to learn that only about 17% of total gov't spending goes to defense. The majority of gov't spending goes to 'entitlements'.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$Flashback highlight$$$$$$$$SDF: Practical for whom? The aristocrat who wishes to retain his/her class monopoly upon the opportunities to attain "skills" and "professions"?

$$$$$$$$$$I'll tell you who opens and closes the gates to job skills, the unions.

: : : SDF: It CAN'T be worse than the current reality...

: : The jobs that Nike provides for the cheap labor in the Third World surpasses anything those nations currently have to offer their citizens.

: SDF: Bullshit, Frenchy. You just spout lies without the slightest shred of evidence, then when you're questioned about it you glorify your ignorance ("I don't read links"). Vietnam collaborates with Nike to oppress its girls, and people like you endorse it.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$This is stupid even for you. Your saying, I guess, that females are better off walking in back of a Water Buffalo planting rice? Sitting around hamlets cutting firewood and having children? Being sold into prostitution (yeah, I know, that's Cambodia, but I've got a strong suspicion that those cultural practices don't stop at an imaginary line in the jungle). First you bitch about elites protecting access to skills and professions, then you bitch because elites open up factories in a jungle somewhere and give some people at least an opportunity to gain a skill.

By our standards the girls who work for Nike are getting a raw deal, but not by their standards. The money they earn they can send back to their families, the same as many Mexican migrant farm workers do here.
It's true, I don't read links, but specifically I don't read your links. And don't forget, I haven't read Das Kapital and probably never will.
Wait. Make that 'never will'.

: : At any rate isn't it better then simply shipping billions of dollars of American tax-payers money to despotships where the citizens will see no benefits?

: SDF: You endorse THAT too, under the banner of a "Reaganesque foreign policy".

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Well, all things being equal, yeah. I mean, how else are these countries gonna keep supplying the wealthy nations with the equivilant of six Marshall Plans every decade if they have nothing to trade?

: : : SDF: And, in the future, the world will become increasingly dependent upon its coal reserves, as oil reserves dry up, no thanks to those who think that coal mining is "increasingly out of date".

: : $$$$$$$$$$$Then that's what men will do if it becomes necessary, perhaps using robots to work in the mines.

: SDF: Using what energy source?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$I've got no idea, that's not my job. Possibly one that is today unimaginable. Possibly a combination of a new method and an old method. I have a hunch though that whatever the method finally used is, it will come from a country where the free market has expression. At least that's the historical track record, no?

: : Hey...maybe McDonalds can roboticize the hamburger flipper jobs to...ahh, progress.

: SDF: And Frenchy will celebrate the consequent loss of jobs.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Ahhh, but won't there be a need for technicians to repair the robots?

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