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Frenchy bickers when knowledge gives in

Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on December 21, 1999 at 17:42:49:

In Reply to: ...and two back towards the Gulags.... posted by Frenchy on December 21, 1999 at 11:11:17:

: Anyways, urban poverty is the beginning of urban prosperity, assuming free markets exist and that governments exist to protect the rights of individuals.

SDF: No it's not. Urban poverty is the beginning of "lifestyles" such as the Filipino women described in Jeremy Seabrook's VICTIMS OF DEVELOPMENT whose sole means of survival is prostitution.

: : SDF: Pray tell, what skill do teenage Vietnamese girls learn working for Nike? And how is it useful to them?

: Sure; showing up on time for work, working cooperatively, working as part of a team. In short the same skills that pimply faced (sorry all you students out there) teen-agers learn when they work at McDonalds. It's too damn bad they have to work under the watchful eyes of commie wardens though. That's a bummmmmmmmmer.

SDF: And it's too bad there's no prospects for advancement, either in wages or in positions, for any of those women, in Vietnam or Malaysia or Indonesia or wherever there's cheap labor to exploit.

: : : By our standards the girls who work for Nike are getting a raw deal, but not by their standards.

: : SDF: So you can tell others what their standards are?

: No, idiot. Reread the sentence.

SDF: So you're just incredibly condescending, hope you feel vindicated. You really do make Leona Helmsley look good. "The little people" have different standards for survival than we do, their lives are cheaper after all...

: : : The money they earn they can send back to their families, the same as many Mexican migrant farm workers do here.

: : SDF: Farm workers here earn somewhere on the order of three dollars an hour. Girls who work for Nike earn 20 CENTS an hour. Nobody sends money home on a job that earns 20 cents an hour.

: Depends. If they are charged a nickel a day for room and board they can. Per capita for Viet-Nam is $1,304, approx. $100.00 month.
: Ahh, the wonders of Socialism.

SDF: How do YOU know?

The folks in the Pico-Rivera pay ENORMOUS rents and work in the same damn sweatshops!

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