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And socialist production, too

Posted by: Stoller on January 11, 19100 at 10:33:08:

In Reply to: Such is the nature of capitalist production posted by Barry (Lark? - McSpot.) on January 10, 19100 at 10:29:32:

Let us take the manufacture of motor vehicles as an example of industralized activity.

: Fine. It is a bad example premised upon environmentally damaging and anti-social action and real private good = public bad example but carry on.

Well, let's make it playstations and (M)TVs then... or these computers we use---they are all examples of Fordism.

: An assembly line is one way of doing it, how do you supppose it was done before Fordism/Taylorism?

It was done LESS EFFICIENTLY, Lark. Before Fordism, cars cost so much only the idle rich could afford them. And that is what the silly Morrisian artisan 'socialism' idealizes---don't you and RD get it?

There is a worker to put on doors; there is another putting on windshields. There are individuals who apply paint; there are individals who apply finish to the paint. Etc., etc.

: This is all premised up the very capitalist qualification of EFFICIENCY, and EFFICIENCY understood as saving in time and resources etc. at the expense of workers etc. you know.

OK, let's do away with efficiency and go back to the middle ages... Or let's reconsider job rotation so everyone can still have industrial abundance WITHOUT consigning any one segment of the population to doing ALL the unskilled work (or would that interfere with your post-graduate plans to have skilled work exclusively at the expense of many other uneducated workers?).

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