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Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Citizens for Mustard Greens, USA ) on January 25, 19100 at 16:08:33:

In Reply to: Faster or slower? posted by JD on January 25, 19100 at 10:41:16:

: I think that things in the US will have to become much worse before any popular movement is born.
SDF: This is a fallacy. As I've pointed out before, bad conditions do not, in themselves, impel people to create popular movements.
Nevertheless, if one wants to create a popular movement, certain political moves will have to be made. Dumping the Democratic Party is one of these moves. The Democrat elite is a bunch of Republicans who think they can blackmail anyone with the least inkling of his or her working-class political self-interest. "You have to vote for us, there is no alternative," the rallying cry of the Democratic Party.
Nonsense!
If Gore or Bradley is elected, either will be FAR WORSE than anything imaginable under Shrub (aka Bush Jr.) And it will do NOTHING to create a mass movement.
I will never vote for a Demopublican from here to the grave.

Follow Ups:

Keep them fed and entertained JD January 26 19100 (8)
- yes Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 26 19100 (7)
  - Nader for Prez? JD January 27 19100 (6)
    - So I've heard... Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 28 19100 (5)
      - Capitalism, after all, needs ever expanding consumption JD Who to support? January 28 19100 (4)
        
        More McNally discussion Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 30 19100 (2)
        
        Criticize Tom Hayden all you want, but I'm not buying. Nikhil Jaikumar DSA MA, USA February 01 19100 (1)
        
        It's an organizational thing Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA February 01 19100 (0)
        
        Oops JD January 29 19100 (0)
It does make a difference, SDF MDG January 25 19100 (11)
- The Democrat is WORSE Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 26 19100 (10)
  - SDF, lost in fantasy land. MDG January 26 19100 (9)
    - a liberal Democrat is far worse than a liberal Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 27 19100 (8)
      - Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong ad infinitum MDG January 27 19100 (7)
        
        Yep, you are! Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 27 19100 (6)
        
        Feh. MDG January 27 19100 (5)
        
        Bleah. Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 28 19100 (4)
        
        I'm impressed. (better version) MDG January 28 19100 (2)
        
        MDG has a point JD January 29 19100 (1)
        
        It's not much of a point Samuel Day Fassbinder Citizens for Mustard Greens USA January 30 19100 (0)
        
        I'm impressed. MDG January 28 19100 (0)