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Bitter as Lemons Barry

Posted by: Lark on February 02, 19100 at 01:47:26:

In Reply to: Tank? Another nasty debating style posted by Stoller on February 01, 19100 at 15:48:51:

: Mmmmmm... that's real subtle. Learn it from Chomsky (Skinner's a Nazi and all that?)

Bitter as Lemons Barry, is there any other holy icons we should not insult while your at it?

: : I am fully aware of the consequences of removal of centralisation. The above is compatiable both with precapitalist production techniques (i have some familiarity with indigenous cultures and yes, i do think it a perfectly fine life) as it is with shall we say fully automised production techniques (i believe even marx said something along these lines).

: Grundrisse quotes, anyone? Let's remember when Marx discarded the Grundrisse to write Capital volume one he REMOVED all the magic automation speculation...

Oh the schisms of a struggling religious sect...

: : I meant the above to convey a statement of idea...

: That's why I called it a utopia.

Hold on just a fucking minute, Marx used the term Utopia in the same way as Blanque, that is that preconceived plans where utopia not idealism. Marx would have found you too utopian Barry.

Evidence of this? Well Marx writes the Commie Manifesto in which he suggests that immediate action should entail centralisation (the ten points?) but when he finds that the workers of Paris in the Commune have not complied with this point by point he doesnt go 'Bah! Phoney, Bourgousie Socialists!!' I some how think you'd have seen it differently, did they have job rotation in the Paris Commune?

Don't bother hunting out a million alternative sectarian interpretations of Marx I'm about as interested in it as the theological debates between the Jesuits and the Lutherians.

: : (Sorry to disappoint you Mr 'Stoller', and break my 'promise', but if you do insist on answering my posts...)

: I knew you'd break your resolution soon enough. Now---how many posts will it take for you to reach Godwin's Law?

Sectarianism, when will it end? Barry Anarchists, unlike your lot, dont engage in leader/thinker veneration, Godwin isnt anarchism and anarchism isnt Godwin if his thinking was flawed they have no reason to engage in defense, apologetics and 'theological' reinterpretations.

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