: Garloo:: A world which you, in your infinite wisdom, have figured out to the letter, huh?.
SDF: If I were to claim I knew everything, I'd be just another religious fanatic. Nope, my complaint is with those who claim to have figured things out to the letter while believing in stuff that has nothing to do with empirical reality. BTW, there are people who try to figure out the world by looking at the world -- they're called physicists, and one of their main tenets of belief is called "revision" -- all statements about the world are subject to revision when contrary evidence is found to be valid. People who are certain of ultimate truth, on the other hand, don't revise. This is a respectable aspect of Lark's rap -- he revises it now and then.
: Additionally, where you get off telling someone from Northern Ireland that faith amounts to little more than an adolescent "struggling to make sense of the world" is beyond me. But then again, lots of things are,
: and I'm left wondering if you have equal contempt for Deep Ecologists
: for whom nature is very much a religion.
SDF: I can see some reasons for belonging to a religion, most of them having to do with participation in a religious or psychological community. Maybe one doesn't want to be ostracized, maybe one wants to "hang out" with people of a particular political stripe. Maybe one wants to believe in imaginary psychic forces in order to get one's brain in order. I can respect that, apologies and retractions to those who thought I didn't.
Me? I think I'll believe in real stuff myself.
McSpotlight: To be fair, SDF, there's a bit of a fuzzy line between what's real and what isn't; do justice or truth have any objective reality?