JJ: What the hell are you talking about?
Qx: You're dodging the issue of the environment. Too hard to comprehend?
JJ: Don't get like Sammy-Boy on me and lose any ability to comprehend or follow a conversation.
Qx: Actually, I don't think SDF nor I have lost any ability to comprehend or follow a conversation. What next? Are you going to claim property rights over this thread?
JJ: Like I said, and made perfectly clear on my post, we don't need to be overly concerned for the environment. It was simple, straightforward, and without any goddamn dodge.
Qx: Yeah...more like a Dodge Ram Pick-up. There's no such thing as being overly concerned for the environment of you like regurgitating the swill dished out at the Chicago School of Economics. And that ain't even from the cafeteria!
: : JJ:My point was taht the whole enviro-scare industry is dead wrong and the "global warming" scare is a manufactured issue to drum up support for left wing ideologies.
: : Qx: Not bad for a conspiracy theory but how about some institutional analysis for once?
JJ: No conspiricy. Just a simple structural analysis.
Qx: And if this is what you call a structural analysis then sliced bread is an invention of the future. Either that or provide some real evidence that isn't corporate sponsored. Please?
: : JJ: We don't need to 'save the environment' as it's in no real large-scale danger.
: : Qx: Oh....so we go on pretending it doesn't matter since you rely on right-wing (hint*- corporatist) sources that need to keep the status-quo on an even keel?
JJ: This whole post is absurd as it simply ignores everything I said. Hey, if ya wanna play like that, okay.
Qx: No, it doesn't. You should provide evidence that you don't rely sopley on right-wing(*hint-corporatists) sources. Too much to ask?
JJ: Well, in the spirit of Sammy-Boy and you, here goes:
Qx: Yahoo!! Let's rock!
JJ: You must approve of all Stalin's brutal slaughter of all the tens of millions of peasants.
Qx: Ooopsy daisy! Whoa there boy! If you haven't the gumption to read even the earliest of my postings then you don't give yourself a chance to know where my position is in regards to Sovietism. Anyways, you've done the great error of erecting a straw man. Oh well...better luck next time.
JJ: That's right you feel the end justifies the means and if anybody disagrees then screw them and to the guns.
JJ: In fact, you'd probably kill your own mother to get your ideological ideals implemented.
Qx: She'd give me a good thrashing if I even thought about such a thing. Anyways, she's basically a pro-capitalist liberal who gets a kick out of Republitarians.
JJ:In fact, you probably kick dogs and little babies whenever they cross your path.
Qx: Hmmm....this looks like a bit of overkill on your part but keep on typing while the rest of us keep on laughing. Americanism at it's finest hour. Maybe I should train the dogs and little babies to atttack pro-capitalists on sight. If successful I could start up my own business. I'll make sure to keep your quote on a promotional brochure.
JJ:(Said in the spirit of Qx, that's you, and Sammy-Boy).
Qx: Joel...did you ever work for the House Un-American Activities Committee? I've heard of some young yuppies of the encrusted New Right trying to flog their own dead horses just to catch a whiff of by-gone days. is it possible hat you could be one of them. Remember that horse manure is basically organic.
JJ: Hey, guys brush up on your reading comprehension.
Qx: Oh we have! Now it's time for you to floss over the details.
: : Qx: Oh yes... the collective action of big business and other rich people who get together to claim the planet as their own but not with the rest of humanity. The results of their policies can be seen all over the face of the globe.
JJ: I don't necessarily disagree with what you say here. But, as you give absolutely no constructive solutions and actions I fail to see how you can talk. And "abolishing money and the nation state" are simple, naive flights of fancy and do not represent any such ideal.
Qx: Look through my postings first. Notice where I have set up URL hyperlinks and other bits of comentary. That should clue you in.
: : Qx: Well, that's why these corporatists hire public relations firms to make over their real image and show a supposedly kinder, gentler side that doesn't really exist.
JJ: Their goal isn't kind, and gentle. It's to create products people can use in order to turn a profit. The public relations images are a mixed bag: they are apologetics for a company's real mistakes, and they fight the absurd claims of people like Ralph Nader and Al Gore (it should be clear by now how much I despise that man).
Qx: My oh my! So Al Gore is Satan Incarnate? I don't necessarily trust the man nor his brand of politics but to despise him strikes me as a tad but absurd. By the way, show how the claims of Ralph Nader and Al Gore are absurd. Please.
: : Qx: Now you'll attain enlightenment. Hare Krsna.
JJ: Can we make a deal? I'll look into Hare Krishna if you look at improving your reading comprehension.
Qx: I can read fine . Go ahead attain Krsna Consciousness for fun and profit. It makes no odds to me.
JJ: Thanks Qx for completely leaving anything I said unanswered;
Qx: Actually, you should thank me for exposing your dodging of the environmental issue by your attempting to trivialize it. Life is tough when you have to fumble the ball for neo-classical economics eh?
JJ: your attempts at rational dialog are much appreciated.
Qx: Why thank you very much. I always enjoy skewering rational courtesans over a roasting fire. It makes me forget about the carbon monoxide emissions.