- Capitalism and Alternatives -


Posted by: Red Deathy ( Socialist party, UK ) on March 24, 1999 at 15:52:08:

In Reply to: nice dreams, made me nostalgic posted by Crimson Tide on March 24, 1999 at 11:01:43:

: Then the wealth stays ever the same. Getting more resources changing the shape of those resources to be ever more useful ever more valuable, thats whats making them all richer - thats how 'they' get away with getting richer all the time, coz the cake gets bigger - thats how folk pay more taxes and still get richer, coz their shopping basket gets better everytime. Thanks to the brains, shame on the % snatchers up on wall street (them that are the baddies, y'know whatever I used to believe - business doenst equal evil, evil = evil), and the snatchers up on capitol hill and downing street, in Berlin, In Paris and every other capital city.

Hmmmm... but brains usually is waged labour, most capitalists sole contribution to production is to have money.

: So you never have to worry about its implementation - jeez I used to argue with my red buddies - dont use force i said, bullshit pipe dreams they said - and they were right, thats when I started turned ex-red,

teh Socialist Party of great britain, and teh World Socialist Movement is committed to Democratic, peaceful social revolution, and holds force to be counter-productive and authoritairan. We beleive a majority can be found who will want to implement socialism. Most leftists disagree,a nd thus run off to fantasies aboutvanguards and violent revolution- if we tried, we could uild a peaceful mass movement.

: Ever hang out in socialist clubs and groups? Listen to what theyre really saying - its power.

Not at the Socialist party, we utterly repudiate leadership, or power for ourselves of any kind. I ahve turned up to leftist meetings, and had to kep my peace while thay prattle on about power, but thats not our plan....

: A majority of the human population should be able to do it, but your conceding - capitalist countries can crush it? Because theyre up on the technology and wealth.

Because they have the military might (hence the only reason for the party, to disable, politically, the military machines). they could not crush a majority of the worlds population. but one or two countries are easilly crushed.

: Until then, until then.... its an endless road Red Deathy.

Theres no other road worth following, until then we keep on prsyletixing.
: Sorry Red, the poeple have decided you have to go salt mining with abunch of strangers -what will you do?

Tell 'em to fuck off.

: I can see a lot shit shoveling left undone - too much like hard work. Humans naturally conserve energy except when motivated to expend it.

make machines, or do a rota to minimise it, if I feel it needs doing i'll do it, but no fucker would force me.

: So those who decide to do nothing, or as near as damn it - do they get to raid the village stockpile just the same?

They'll be very bored. And unliked. But even washing the pots is something.

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